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I'd rather have McCain/Palin because they will inherit the hatred people had for Bush. So people won't give them the benefit of the doubt or make excuses for them. We saw a perfect example of what an Obama presidency is going to be like during the primaries. Hillary and Obama had almost identical platforms, yet everything she said was highly criticized. Journalists actually did their job trying to decipher what she really meant. Yet anything Obama said was praised and anything unflattering was explained away. You couldn't tell who were reporters and who were people working in his campaign. They were reading from the same script. That kind of power makes the Obama brand more dangerous than Bush ever was. Anything done in the name of Obama (i.e. American interests) will be a-okay with the public because the newspapers will convince them it is. The terrible things this country has done for the last 8 years (and every year before that) will continue seamlessly regardless of who is president. If you care about the rest of the world you should want some despicable characters in the White House because thats the only time people actually pay attention to the atrocities the government commits. Bush only failed because he wasn't smart enough or a good enough actor to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, which is his only job. Obama apparently has no trouble with that. |
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"What's on the menu?" "Well, you can have the buffet, or a cup of ground glass." "Interesting! Which do you recommend?" "... ...they're both good." |
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some people say some stupid things on the internet from time to time. in other news, a person in a gorilla costume recently walked through the room. |
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*gasp* You're worse than Hitler! To the re-education camps with you! |
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As fleetmouse pointed out, almost half of America's population didn't find anything wrong with the last 8 years, or found that whatever McCain/Palin had to offer outweighed the past 8 years. How's that for depressing? |
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i dont think that the mccain camp was that bad in comparison to bush murdering millions |
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have to say george was looking a bit put out by the whole thing. . . |
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stooopeeeed amedicahhns!!!!! I wonder if Obama does his wife doggy style, still... |
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He didn't get his turn in the bully cockpit. Remember, a vote for McSenile was a vote for 100 years in Iraq shooting insignificant brown people. Anyoo Obama may be more conservative than I'd like but at least he's a cccombo breaker in Rove's dreaded permanent Republican majority, and the sea of human suffering that would have caused. |
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Clearly, this needs to be asked of Michelle on The View. |
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honestly, after the last 8 years how can anyone possibly be pessimistic about Obama taking over, he seems like a very intelligent person with good morals, both things Bush completely lacked. I wish him all the best now if only the UK could have elections soon so we can get rid of Brown before he does any more damage. |
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I was just messing with you guys. Obama is Batman. "For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers." This makes him already the best president in living memory. |
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he's good at communicating ain't he |
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the black president - i have a dream/bitch please III feat. eminem and dr.dre |
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He will inspire a new caste of Guardians of the Moral Hygiene. |
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Honestly, that sounds like a lot of illogical bullshit to me. |
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Obama is the "Black Bush." That is, I see no inherit differences between the two, and today was just more of the same for me. Yes, you will get differences on certain left/right issues, but the foundation is the same. Not to say these issues aren't important (Roe VS Wade I.E.), but when you prioritize issues - I can't justify that as being a foundational difference. More bailouts, more war, more socializing of our industry (banking first), more inflation, more deficits, you name it. People are going to be in a rude awakening. I rue the day when I can say I told you so for all those people putting their blind faith in Obama. And see folks, this is where it gets scary. Regardless if you feel Obama is a puppet (like Bush) or not, when you have someone coming into office with that kind of backing I don't see it boding well. Lots of interesting things. YOu have George H.W. Bush praising Obama for his cabinet picks. (that should raise question marks for all the anti-bush obama zombies). You also have newsweek just recently publishing an editorial, where they basically made a case for Obama to leave the Patriot Act in Place as well as the FISA bills because he won't ever use them! For me it's a sad day, but I'm hopeful. Hopefully people will see how pitiful and alike Republicans and Democrats are to where it ushers in real change than what we are being led to believe. Also, stop wearing Obama apparel like it's cool. I mean it doesn't even say Obama '08 or Change yata yata, it's just an artists rendition of his face. God I hate people. :] |
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i'm sorry no-one exists that would make a suitable president for you. For the rest of us, lets hope he can at least do some good. Already he is dealing with Guantanamo bay... 'black Bush'? What planet are you on? |
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Oh please, Guantanamo? You don't think there's other "prisons" for torture? Guantanamo was just a media tool, I mean it's obvious given the treatment of people there. No see, there could be a suitable president. I never stated what was suitable for me, I simply stated issues that he parallels with Bush, hence my beginning comment. I realize you are from the UK and have things to worry about their (IE Bank Nationalization). I hope for the best too, but I expect the worst (or close to it). |
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i don't think you can wipe away every evil detention center and every evil patriot act blah blah without losing your power instantly. he's a completely new fish in an old stubborn system, you think he should be completely reforming american politics. if he tried to do that he really would be assassinated, or at least completely shut down. STOP BEING SO IMPATIENT AND JUST BE FUCKING THANKFUL. |
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alright yankee boi, it aint like america is the only place thats goin down the pan these days, as others have said too the UK aint exactly in a good state either. well this is the last post i'll make in the obama fred cause i'm not into politics really, its all whack. |
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i didn't watch it..it is all fake imo and a waste of community money. But tell me: was it worth seeing? |
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"Also, stop wearing Obama apparel like it's cool. I mean it doesn't even say Obama '08 or Change yata yata, it's just an artists rendition of his face. God I hate people. :]" Yeah I hate the Obama fanboyism, some people are taking his win a little too far, specially leftwingers, there will be a day if you disagree with a Obama policy you'll have to start your phrases with "Hey, I'm not a racist but..." |
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Your right he would be assassinated if you believe Obama is a puppet of some oligarchy. Now for argument sake let's take the mainstream image and understanding of Obama. If he were to end the wars in the middle-east, reverse the Patriot Act, and reverse the FISA bills that would have even more public approval. And you say be thankful, thankful of what exactly pertaining to Obama? |
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i just had a snuff and sneezed one hell of of an achhoom. good bless you. |
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"US president devotes first full day at White House to getting rid of discredited Bush policies" Black Bush? "Obama will to talk to Iran 'without preconditions'" something the US hasn't done for 30 years I think |
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I'll believe when I see it. The game-plan as of now remains the same as W's. |
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"Obama shuts CIA's 'ghost prisons'" "New US president embarks on wholesale deconstruction of George Bush's war on terror" when you see it believe it then, won't be long at this rate |
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word |
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agreed. |
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For me, homeboy can be viewd two ways... realistically or hyperrealistically 1.) or 2.) |
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Yep, the U.S. bombing the border of Pakistan today emphasizes that nicely. My point through all of this is that there are too many Obama zombies. And when you look back at History and see the various leaders/rulers who had such a herd of sheep it didn't turn out very well to say the least. |
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