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In some ways I agree with that, but in practice I don't find that at all. I was fiddling around with one of Ae's patches yesterday (or whatever was put up by Fluorescent Grey) and it's neverending. Sub sub sub sub modules all over the place. When you start screwing round with it, it really does become very interesting-they're very skilled in what they do (whoever programmed it). However, in the time it takes to program something like that, I could be making MANY complex patterns using hardware and software and not having to bother with fault finding etc. |
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Via software, that thing doesn't have enough knobs to control every parameter live. |
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I never meant to disrespect those who choose to work with software that requires conformity to an interface Not at all, my good man. I'm amused, not offended, by your myopic contempt for musicians who use the wrong software application programs on their computer hardware devices. Some day you'll show them all - the girl who laughed at your Klingon love poem, the boys who gave you wedgies at camp, the grandma who didn't understand your vision, the guy on xltronic who said your youtube video was the Linux version of Waiting for Guffman. You'll unveil your 20k lines of code that make humming and dripping noises. |
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so you're saying any synth that doesn't have a knob for every parameter is shit? I'd love to get busy with a full modular synth but when it comes to fast fun sounds I see nothing wrong with the microkorg or similar. Granted the presets/genre things are sad but only a fool would use them without tweaking and experimenting. |
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Nah I'm not saying it's shit but the XL layout seems rather empty. |
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no, not via software you obviously have never used one, so fuck off out of the conversation i cannot stand people who think they know stuff about a piece of gear when they've never even fucking touched one in real life |
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So is it like a Micron, where you can access all the parameters by various combinations of buttons and knobs? The thing I like about the Micron is the piano keys take you to different areas like filters, mod matrix etc. |
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the original microKORG uses two central knobs to access the various sections (OSC1, filter section, etc) and then the five knobs along the top right are used to change the parameters obviously you cannot have a high level of tweakability during a performance, but with a synth like the microKORG you're not meant to make your patches live. i never got to pla with a micron, but i did hear a lot of people liked the way that it uses the keys as parameter selectors i personally would find it annoying, but it's one way to access the parameters in a small form factor |
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might as well if you're on that kind of budget. Yeah it's cheap and analog sounding, but save up and get a good ANALOG synthesizer, like a juno synth, or a synthesizers.com synth. |
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Touchy twat, we where talking about the XL which is obviously meant to be used with it's software. |
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do you not see the parameter matrix on the front panel? |
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Yes that seems very practical with only three knobs, they emphasized the patch selecting area for a reason. http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/56/0000684456/01/imgd 249f8e8zik1zj.jpeg |
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I must say i do feel a bit offended by your statements there. No one in the world MUST make their own software to suit the user's needs, i guess you are really so proud of yourself that you mastered SC the way you let me think you are (if that is the truth, i don't know, i haven't listened to your work yet). I'm quite tired of people claiming homebrew is the jew (=way, but i thought it sounded more funny and 'ziltic') while they really are only just trying to hype up what they think has changed their lifes and put them 'up there' above 'those other artists'. Well let me try and counter that, though in a rather more kinder way instead of flamboiant, if you have encountered such limits in, let's say, FLstudio, then you are probably lacking the motivation, curiosity to find and explore unexplored unknown roads, and the capacity to do something with them. I know you have already apologized for your earlier statements, and i know i'm not the only one who appreciated that, but I could not help myself from having to say something about it. |
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and i suppose you didn't even see the buttons underneath the LCD display? wow, looks like someone's never even played around with a DX-7 that thing will NEVER be used by professional musicians because the DX-7 has no knobs don't worry mate, you're knob enough to make up |
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haha look at you guys all wearing your serious pants lets all get your knobs out and compare, just hold on a sec and let PoutMask code his first in supercollider |
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oh vlari, you cocksocket <3 |
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See, your so far up your own ass that you don't even try to stop and figure out what people are saying do you? dx7 great example of what I was saying about this type of interface and patch editing, most of the Italo keyboardists used factory patches and made great use of them including the ones on the dx7, nothing wrong with that like you're trying to imply. Also just because I have a new register doesn't mean I didn't read the board before mister "buy synths to toy with them and sell them at a loss once you figure out that you can't do anything with them due to your lack of talent to anything but still want to fit in", k? |
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i like my bum |
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i'm much happier now that i had some alcohol |
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lol what else did your research bring up? |
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Seconded, very few people bothered editing the presets on the DX series apart - these guys new what they were doing and had read the manual (lol). Mind, it would be nice to have some degree of massive control surface for the DX series, I was trying to find a parameter randomiser for my DX11 but there's nothing out there like that, just really simple software editors :( |
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the idea of using FL as an instrument (as opposed to a work space to compiling complete track into) and then multi tracking it into a daw like cubase or logic has always intrigued me. never dug into it tho. theres a whole bunch of other shit iv already got my hands tied up in. like reverb in traktor 3 and tin foil samples taken with a makeshift contact microphone. the results are insane. |
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There are Synthmaker dashboards for the DX7 and DX7 2 in FL Studio now. I don't see why you couldn't make one for the DX11 also, by digging in and modifying the existing ones. |
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FL is some pretty powerful juju if you have a bit of imagination. It's also the king of resampling itself, even more so than Ableton. Don't see why you'd need a separate DAW. Can you share your tinfoil contact mic samples? |
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The dx7 had a knob interface that you can buy separately. It accesses 64 of the prarameters. The microkorg only had 4 knobs, and practically everything was accessed with them. Sorry to stay kind of on track here. I will stop posting before I get flamed. |
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Ooooh that's interesting, I might have a look into that. Unfortunately barely anything is CC controllable in the DX11, it's all SysEx (which really I probably should learn how to do...) I might also check that hardware interface Taxi, that would be great if that would work with the DX11... |
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Sysex is easy. I can't remember the exact format of the messages, but your DX11 manual hopefully has a big section on it. You typical sysex message starts with F0 to denote sysex, then the manufacturer ID and device ID, then midi channel(?), address to write data to, number of bytes to send, the data itself, checksum(parity?) You end with F7. Your mileage may vary, but thats the jist of it. A sysex might look like this TOTALLY made up example: F0 3B A1 34 E2 D2 A3 F7 All the numbers are in hex. You're on windows aren't you? midiox will do the trick. |
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I just had a peep inside the DX7 one and it does use sysex - F0blahblahblah as Dave G says, and StrSysex modules. I really should spend more time learning Synthmaker; it's pretty powerful and it came free with the latest FL Studio update. |
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Cool, that looks easy enough! I'll have a look into building some kind of programmer. |
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