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the us aren't in a position to confront russia directly, but i would disagree that the US havent been provoking russia indirectly especially with its saber rattling over Iran. |
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i don't think they're happy with the current events in Georgia though... gives them nothing. maybe they were provoking Russia indirectly but it is an all lose for them as for now, so why would they provoke? They're now forced showing inability to intervene towards all their beloved rogue states (as the events must have been kind of predictable for Washington, my mere guess is US plainly doesn't have much influence on the situation at all and this all is a stupid fault by Georgia which just comes very handy to Russia and unhandy to US) ... US should also work on their relationships with Russia sooner or later in order to face a rising mutual Chinese threat maybe :P |
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Georgia over played their hand planing on the UN to help. The only threat from China is economic, it's not really a threat, it's a fact. |
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blaaard, do you think the reports of us soldiers/mercenaries being captured by the russian side are false? i forgot where i read it but apparently there is being reported direct Us military involvement, why who the hell knows. Ill try to find the one story i read about how the US flew 2,000 Georgians back to Georgia from iraq to help them fight. this last one im pretty sure has been confirmed. |
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this didn't happen on US order... afaik Saakashvili begged for that airlift since Friday, though he first wanted to pull only 1000 troops, then quickly had to reconsider. (probably part of a contract involving the troops being stationed in Iraq..? whatever) And it's only an airlift... the mercenary/soldier capture i've never heard/read of... imo this conflict is far less complicated then what all sort of media want it to look like. What keyfumbler wrote on page 1. |
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Col. Sam Gardiner: “If U.S. Attacks Russia, Russia will Use ” You should just see how awful CNN is spinning this story. |
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French chappy Sarkosy is trying to mediate with Moscow.....somehow i think this guy might save everyones ass. I'd fuckin love that - "the french cheese-eating surrender monkeys" using good old fashioned diplomacy in stopping of WW-cubed. In the end though Georgia is fucked. |
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Last night I was watching CNN, and they interviewed an american who had escaped the conflict. The news caster asked "How are you getting your news" and the girl said "Internet, cable tv, CNN... it's kind of hard to get the truth because yesterday CNN reported that there was a second bombing when in fact there wasn't " The girl was going to go on but the news caster was like "How are your kids are they good ? Oh ok we gotta go thank you for being on tonight, good luck" lol We need to start a letter writting campaign. We need to point out these lies and make sure our local news papers pick up on them. Will it stop CNN, maybe, maybe not, but at least the normal people will be aware of the lies they are being told on some of these huge networks. The dis information is dangerous. I just listened to John McCain give a speach and he's like "On Friday Russia invaded Georgia". How about Thursday ? How about weeks before the Russians trying to get peace sanctions at the UN but to no success. The Georgian leadership is putting their people at risk for what ? The American government ? The Georgians have been killing Journalists, plowing down innocent civilians, and the western media is selling this story of bad Russia. War sucks, but at least you can tell us the real story and not try to build this public opinion that best suits the business and political interest of a few fat pigs ! |
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stop reading russian sources, it`s pure propoganda. putin=new stalin. i`ve watched russian tv channels and i don`t think fox news can beat them in this shameless propoganda bullshit. fuck russia, fuck america. |
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Fox can beat any channel for propaganda, and i'm shocked to see CNN sink so low, I always thought they were pretty decent compared to Fox. Georgia risked a quick land grab and it failed, did they think Russia wouldn't react to protect their people after 1500 were killed in the attack from Georgia? Oh wait, it was Russia who invaded Georgia wasn't it? That Georgian prime minister needs to go, no wonder Russia hates him, "Russia has split Georgia in two", "Ethnic Cleansing"... "cease fire" when they are still fighting, who on earth put him in that position, hmmm let me see... |
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Honestly, how can a news station get it so wrong? Wrong town, wrong country that starts war?! "This worlds crazy, give me the gun" you get a cookie if you can tell me who sang that |
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I think the whole things is retarded, right now I think it is just as important to point out the media lies. I would for someone to refute what RT is reporting, because right now it seems like the truth, because CNN is telling such huge lies. CNN also reported that one of the towns was bombed on Saturday, and as one of the callers they were interviewing said live on air, that was not the case. It's a video clip of what I was explaining in an above post, I found it on youtube. |
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We all have no idea what is going on there and I, for one, am surprised that so many of you choose to believe official Russian sources. It was kind of obvious that this war would happen since Kosovo became an independent state. Many political analysts agreed that the next step was indeed going to be South Osetia and Abchasia (sp?). At least here it seemed to be a very likely conclusion. "Russian peace forces" next to a country crucial for the transport of gas??? Give me a fucking break. Yep, fuck Russia, fuck America. Russia is still first though. I'm drunk, oh so pleasantly drunk. Why do you have to ruin it with your war? Fuck Caucasus!!!! |
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I'd love to see BBC's Jeremy Paxman interview the media-hungry Georgian President... "So Mr Saakashvili - what the hell did you think would happen if you went up against Russia?" |
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in other news: attempts are made by the video game company of Codemasters to create the most realistic tactical shooter game ever, . NUGULAR WEAPONZ! BUY GAZMAZKZ!!1 |
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well said. you guys are putting a shocking amount of faith in the Russian propaganda. Both Russia and Georgia are completely at fault here. Choosing sides is a bit ignorant. |
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Porick I agree. Yesterday I tried to get the other side of the story. I got links to several blogs members of the Georgian government made. Check out this article I would like to really get some more examples of lies the international media are telling as well. Post your links here! |
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why not rather try to post something that tries to clear things a bit? . |
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that was a good read, thanks... Why can't these breakaway regions become independent or even part of Russia? They are full of Russian nationals and I doubt very much they will be wanting to be any part of Georgia after the attack? |
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yeah i guess that will happen... Russian administration will continue to put pressure until Saakashvili is gone, no doubt. hmm i just can't quite believe the US analysts' misjudgement of the situation... who knows though.... maybe Saakashvili really just had some kind of internal system himself. |
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Shit, the Americans are sending millitary units to Georgia, but only to provide "humanitarian aid" as they put it. The Busher is telling the Russians not to interfere as they come to the Georgians assistance. I don't like this development at all.... |
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The Busher... it's certainly not hard for him to keep up with S'vili's lack of brain, making things a bit more delicate? [[ IMO he can't do shit except stirring fear. His harsh words: signs of impotence. If the Russians are stupid enough to be teased by this... well it won't happen. IMO ]] what still boggles me is the suicidal mal-communication between S'vili and his masters from the Pentagon... is the true reason for the conflict? el oh el? ?? leave your sinking country now, Americans!!! no... vote Obama, no, wait.... haha |
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you know how hard it is to leave now? |
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I trust bbc and guardian.co.uk......i'd never trust a mainline american network... cnn, fox. ... give me a break. Only trust news that has no advertising. Any news on what Noam Chomsky thinks of this? |
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POINTLESS |
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oh boy... |
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blaaard ! Great link ! |
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what exactly did you get out of that link? that americans are stupid and so georgians are lying? i`ve seen that video used as a major evidence that americans made that conflict happend. i wonder how nike commercials don`t make you fucking western people run all day long in big rounds until you drop dead. god i hate media. |
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not a peep, so far, but and are the places to keep an eye on |
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ALL HAIL RUSSIA! Soviet power is the road to socialism that was discovered by the masses of the working people, and that is why it is the true road, that is why it is invincible. |
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the "working people" never had the power,and i think will never got. |
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The working mans revolutions have always been funded by offshore banks, VI LENIN apparently got a lot of money from US banks. Them damn baking cartels bourgeoisie scum got to Lenin too ! |
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Ronald Suny, an expert on the region and a professor at the University of Michigan, disagrees, and points the finger at Saakashvili, saying he "absolutely started the crisis," by invading the breakaway region of South Ossetia in an attempt to draw American support into the Caucuses. “I’m shocked. I watched him on several news conferences now," Suny said. "I’m stunned by the length he goes to create his own reality. "You have to ask yourself, why did Saakashvili do this? What was he thinking?" Gary Schmitt, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, disagrees. Schmitt, director of advanced strategic studies at the conservative economic and foreign-policy think tank, said blaming Georgia for Russia’s aggression is comparable to saying "a young girl gets raped in the street for wearing a miniskirt." |
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I bet Gary Schmitt was waiting for weeks to find a use for that analogy. |
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who's bombing who dont worry once ukraine and georgia go into nato , no more russia aggression *orbit gum smile* |
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youtube has switched off the 'views' counter for that vid.. |
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oh boy... |
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lol.. i actually feel this shit so unreal |
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sooooo we're still alive THANK GOD :] |
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