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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2008-05-15 11:44 [#02206754]
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...shit shit shit, and full of idiots that neednt be here killin each other in our streets, that mixed with even shitter government and a voting majority of middle england tossers that only want to protect their own assets. also i feel as a race western culture has well over evolved and were fucking everything up big time. i cant wait for the nukes to start going off, lets face you wont feel much, provided your fairly close when they go and hopefully they'll be enough of them to totally wipe the planet dead and let earth start again.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 12:11 [#02206759]
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I really dont feel that banning violent entertainment is a good idea in any circumstance and you shouldn't feel that it has no place in a happy, violence free society. It is human nature to want to see it/understand it/enjoy it. I feel it's perfectly healthy really, only its IMPORTANT for it to be used carefully and with sensetive care. Thats where the games go wrong, cos violence in games is pretty much just a vicious treat of splatters and broken bits. Even this isn't the end of the world, i don't want people to turn into non violent tree huggers.
The reason i have been against what you are saying is that your point is in a way a part of what i find frustrating about this country. I want the UK to embrace a different attitude; with strength and outrage, but clarity and compassion. I guess i really just want you to be like me; dreaming of roaming the streets with a katana and destroying them and what they stand for. I want to represent the consequence of them letting THE TEETH get into human kind (don't worry it dosn't make sense). I'm just frustrated.
If you knew the problem, really felt it, you wouldn't want talk about football. It's just too glib for how heavy things are getting. But i do know what youre saying and it's pretty concrete: Good parenting/education + life affriming activities + the rest of the brickabrack that makes for a stable upbringing. That still has to happen, but the problem we have now is down to this stuff not happening 20 years ago. Now we have the consequence to face and it's a completely different subject. If you'd like my solution to the whole thing i could tell you here......but then i'd have to kill you.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-15 14:03 [#02206852]
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We're all thugs to somebody, we're all losers to somebody, we're all wastes of space to somebody.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 14:10 [#02206864]
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....But only a few are going around kicking the shit out of pensioners
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2008-05-15 14:13 [#02206866]
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ampi i get your drift, our local paper has had too many stories of kids kickin in older folk, for fucks sake 3 of em jumped an old boy when he was on his way back from the service mens club, personally i'd like to do some very bad things to these kids, real dark like.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 14:16 [#02206870]
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Lets do this!
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2008-05-15 14:21 [#02206873]
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la revolution! sadly tho i can see us stood tall and proud in court telling with glee tales of harm hurt mutilation and barb wire assisted rape of gutless young brits, and once someones done some bad to do some good, i forsee the bad doers bein royally fucked over by the injustice system.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-15 14:59 [#02206895]
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Exactly, "only a few".
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 16:18 [#02206908]
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By the way, don't get me wrong, there are times when violence in entertainment is necessary to highlight social issues. I am talking about tightening censorship. What do kids learn from the violence that is endemic in games such as Grand Theft Auto, or movies duch as Saw. These are the ones that should be banned.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 17:24 [#02206937]
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....there are actually alot of them. There is one under your bed right now!
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 17:25 [#02206938]
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To ban them would glorify them. GTA and horror movies in general prove this.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:02 [#02206946]
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You can't glorify a product that doesn't exist. The horror market has always had a small fan base, but ban them outright and directors would not be able to make movies as nobody in their right mind would investment? There might be a black market, but the budgets would be so low the quality would be appalling, especially as the gulf in terms of money spent would be wider than ever.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:05 [#02206948]
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I don't want to ban horror movies you miserable bastard. Neither should you
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-15 18:11 [#02206951]
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your defence is so see-throu. get a brain and move on. or dont and fuck off.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:16 [#02206956]
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My defence is see thru?
Make some more posts here earthy i think you are crucial in defining the average british twat. It's so educational. Tell me your opinions on UK cos i bet they are proper good
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-15 18:18 [#02206958]
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i think you beat me to it
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:20 [#02206959]
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Nah seriously! You live in notts whats youre evaluation on brit life.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-15 18:32 [#02206964]
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The horror market has never had a small fan base -- horror has always been one of the big genres since it voices the fears of a particular time.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-15 18:35 [#02206966]
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bela lugosi's dead
undead undead undead
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:37 [#02206967]
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Absolutely.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 18:37 [#02206968]
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I'll google it later
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-15 20:12 [#02206989]
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C'mon then you poxy tart. Where's the chat you promised me? Your last post was a bit rubbish so do try harder.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 06:16 [#02207072]
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Compared to the mainstream it's a niche market, always has been.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 09:07 [#02207096]
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....yeah. Anyway we should really talk about terrorism. Discuss....
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 11:18 [#02207114]
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What about it?
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EDDIE MURPHY
from EDDIE (United States) on 2008-05-16 11:29 [#02207116]
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THE UK IS SOME CRAZY SHIT
HUH HU HUH UH UH UH
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-16 11:53 [#02207138]
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For many years Halloween held the record for the independent film with the largest profit, as did The Blair Witch Project. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is one of the most successful independent films of all time. On the independent circuit, the genre of film most likely to sell and make a profit is horror. SAW grossed over $100,000,000, its sequel over $150,000,000. The Universal horror films of the 1930s and 1940s were smash hits, saving the studio. Horror as an umbrella genre sells, and it sells very well.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 11:57 [#02207142]
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Big deal, Free Willy grossed $153,698,625.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 12:00 [#02207145]
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LETS BAN FREE WILLY
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-16 12:01 [#02207147]
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well that movie does make me want to commit violence.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 12:05 [#02207151]
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That film is directly responsible for thug violence
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noseburger
on 2008-05-16 12:13 [#02207154]
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i hate people who like football factory. its shit. i've not even seen it. so there you go.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 12:15 [#02207157]
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I havn't either. Have you seen Green Street or woteva its called? Elijah Woods does football holigan
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noseburger
on 2008-05-16 12:20 [#02207159]
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that sounds as appealing as a sock puppet doing porn
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 12:27 [#02207162]
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It's an experience. Tell me you hate chavs.
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 18:44 [#02207350]
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See, the UK is a marvelous place really NO ITS NOT We all have
complete free speech NO YOU DONT (as complete as it gets) aswell as freedoms of all kinds NO YOU DONT. Our society as a whole has worked hard WITH IMMIGRANTS HANDS to progress and leave behind bigotry SURE, mindless religion SURE, empty social codes YEAH, pompous tradition DANG !!! ect.
Education is pretty much available to all now WHAT FOR (brick laying course - 1 gcse F grade required) and food PREPARED MICROWAVE BASED SHIT aswell as luxury items BARGAINED PLASMAS are affordable enough TO CHAVS. However, things are getting ugly underneath NO THEY DONT.
Fashion lead by the 'freethinking' has confined us and left us desperate YOU WERE ALLWAYS DEPERATE. The platform on which we built WITH IMMIGRANTS HANDS our new free KHEM country for the last ten years is still unfinished and will
not hold under such pressure OF COURSE. All this work will be undone.
THIS IS ENGLAND NOW shamefully.
source: the hafler trio: Bang! An oper letter.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:03 [#02207368]
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Shabby work K. Where would you rather be living? What's your evaluation of the problem?
Spoilt is what i call those who make out we aren't free, because any more freedom will be dangerous.
I am v poor K :( but i still have a telly, nice enough food, a net connection, i can buy toys for my niece that i couldn't have dreamt of when i was a nipper.
I am badly educated yet i have the ablitity to know things that were restricted before my time. Knowledge and info is everywhere and free.
There is more but i really shouldn't rise to correct your rubbish points K. But i would like to hear your ideas (and im not being sarcy here) on the matter. Is there something i am missing?
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:13 [#02207375]
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youre not free. you think you are. you cant buy whatever you want.you cant do whatever you want.youre being told its OK even if its not OK. you accept that and play with stupid game which brings us to the point we discussed before. political correctness.the economic growth is based on slavery in past, and immigrants hands today (which you slag more and more). people shift towards mcdonalds forgetting how to prepare food. a car is a social status indicator.tv feeds you with 67th edition of big brother, friends, scrubs and 20h daily commercials.you cant have a pet, a dog or a cat in bigger housing estates. you cant mount a sattelite dish. you cant buy a can of beer at 2 o clock at night. peope dont know anything about outside the island really. they say "how are you"but they dont really want to know and youre not supposed to say either. i guess youll have to be on your own to understand this, as theres many other things and excuse me but whoever says ITS ENGLAND NOW clearly doesnt understand whats going on. but, at least, youre patriot.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-16 19:14 [#02207376]
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And?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:30 [#02207383]
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Your point is garbled and messy. What kind of utopian freedom do you expect from a country, a country that is full of so many ideas and people that change will take years. However your point (or the point i think you made???) isn't entirely wrong. Y'know when i said things are bad underneath, well alot of what you highlight as problems in this country is exactly what i'm talking about. Just not in the 6th former context you are.
Slavery: we can't detatch ourselves from our past. But we are working to change this, to the point where you'd find it real hard to find anyone that dosn't find that part of our past completely shameful. Not everyone is but generally we are against it in principle and that is where change starts.
Freedom: Tommorow i could go out and walk for miles without being told where to go. I could write a book on the government and say it was shit. I could even insight violence against the west and not be detained, i could get 45 days detention but thats far better than what i'd get in america, china, russia ect. I can wear what i want or eat what i can afford. I could go to another country. I could marry another man. The freedoms we have are massive and just because we aren't ABSOLUTELY 'CHAOS-AND-MADNESS' FREE dosn't mean you can complain. Me and my family could of had it real hard, but things have been pretty fair for most in this country. And where it isn't good enough people are fighting and working hard to change it.
PATRIOT WEIRDNESS??? I don't know hwta you mean here. I obviously aren't hung up on my country in a patriotic sense.
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:42 [#02207391]
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there are two threads, youre trying to make normal conversation with me in one of them and yet, youre insulting me in the other.
oh boy.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:51 [#02207401]
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In one thread we are discussing an interesting subject. In the other you are being a bastard to tragedy which got right up my nose. This is my honesty.
I feel i do have to apologise for this cos it is confusing. But like i sed my honesty means i attack you when you are being a nob and am reluctant to do so in quite the same way when you are being less of a nob. It's more than youve done for me K. I am mighty bitter about the negative posts i got for trying to be apologetic. You weren't really worth it in the first place but i hated the thought of things being REALLY shit. I can't really step back from that K so we are forever enemies. Lets do this properly.
*clears throat*
CUNT
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 19:56 [#02207405]
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i wisely choose my enemies, and most of time there has to be a strong reason to pick them up. furthermore, i keep my enemies close to know them better. i dont really consider you an enemy.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 20:16 [#02207429]
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Alright k. Lets lay the rules. We don't find eachother pleasant and i think it would be awfully rubbish if we kissed and made up after so much mud slinging (most done by me, most egged on by you). Lets hate eachother but in a loveable proffesional way. We can say whatever we want to each other but no hard feelings afterwards. I find alot of the complication in all this was down to me feeling i pushed you off the board (and i felt shit for that at the beginning). I don't see much reason for you to be here tho cos you just cruise around being so gobsmackingly critical. Anyway we are chalk and cheese (you are the cheese cos that shit smells) but as long as we both know that no real harm is done we can be as cross with eachother as we like.
DEAL?
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 20:19 [#02207433]
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why should i hate you, i never hated you. never had harsh feelings also. you make a mistake if you think that criticising something fills me with hate at the same time. you can criticise what you like as well.
anyways, i wont get onto your path again.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-16 20:23 [#02207438]
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I like it when we disagree k. Come back any time and we'll spar it out. I'd feel a little more comfortable if you hated me properly tho.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-17 08:41 [#02207568]
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Glasse more on UK!
LAZY_UK
This has got me cross mainly because today there was a program saying that the media is to blame for victimising teens ect ect. It's comes after official figures show violent crime decreasing, but that isn't the point. They go on about the media misrepresenting the matter, i don't entirely disagree as i don't feel the media truly captures the problem. But it took me ages to even find this article. THIS COUNTRY IS NOT BEING VERY CLEVER
You can see where the media is clumsy ("they smoked cannabis" ect) but they are not outright misrepresenting the thing. However it makes light of the issue because it dosn't quite capture the heart of it. For a look at this country and why the problem is unique look at the pictures of their faces ect: remember the whole thing with this country now is the FLAVOUR, the special flavour of it all.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-17 11:12 [#02207607]
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Well, 10 and then 20 years from now when they are still in prison they won't think it was so fun afterall. Cannabis had nothing to do with it, the alcohol may have helped a little, but they were probably talking about it all day and even looking forward to it. When people get to this point they have completely turned their conscience off.
I don't know what the solution is, ampi. Have you ever watched the Death Wish movies? You could get a pistol, disguise yourself as an old man and start roaming the streets at night. Then when they try to assualt you, blow one of their brains out in front of their mates. If more and more civilians do this you should have your streets cleaned up in no time.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-17 11:25 [#02207609]
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Oh glasse. Why is it you always know just what to say. I would love to do that, but jesus sed its wrong so i'll have to come u wiv something else.
I know you get these kinds of things happening everywhere in the world, but like i keep saying there is a certain something that makes this particularly worrying. I got so cross this morning watching some bullshit prog on how kids just aren't listen to and that the papers are misrepresenting them. Kids are listned to plenty, infact they have dictated so much of how the UK is now.
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noseburger
on 2008-05-17 11:35 [#02207610]
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the uk is 100 posts long.
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