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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:32 [#02176937]
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they were slugs. and it wasn't really a silencer. it's some
kind of augment designed to change the noise of the slug
leaving the barrel. to make it sound like something that is
not a gun. its not silent at all, just not recognizable as a
gun



 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:49 [#02176938]
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the movie does not 'end' badly in my opinion.

*SPOILER*

I always liked to hear about the oldtimers. Never missed
a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself
gainst the oldtimers. Can't help but wonder how they
would've operated these times. There was this boy I sent to
the gas chamber at Huntsville here a while back. My arrest
and my testimony. He killed a fourteen-year-old girl. Papers
said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't
any passion to it. Told me that he'd been planning to kill
somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that
if they turned him out he'd do it again. Said he knew he was
going to hell. Be there in about fifteen minutes. I don't
know what to make of that. I surely don't. The crime you see
now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm
afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to
even do this job - not to be glorious. But I don't want to
push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't
understand. You can say it's my job to fight it, but I don't
know what it is anymore. More than that, I don't want to
know. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He would
have to say, "O.K., I'll be part of this world."


that monologue of Ed's is really it. the movie is just an
old cop from huntsville texas coming to terms with modern
psychocriminals, the likes of which didn't exist in "the old
times". if you can then look at Ed Tom Lee's final monologue
as the "action packed explosive ending" then it's just as
good. that's how i see it, at least. ed tom lee's final
monologue is as good as any 2-minute long explosion or
shootout. if youre totally disconnected from ed tom lee
throughout the film then i think its easier to miss the
point


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2008-02-18 23:49 [#02176939]
Points: 1110 Status: Lurker | Followup to cygnus: #02176937



Actually I could swear the Coen brothers have said that it
was infact a shotgun firing buckshot in an interview. I
remember reading in some forum that silencers for bugshot
actually do exist and are specifically designed to prevent
the buckshot from catching, I think lower velocity amo is
also needed to make the shotgun silencer actually silent.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2008-02-18 23:50 [#02176940]
Points: 1110 Status: Lurker



bugshot = buckshot


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:53 [#02176941]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



ed tom lee's final monologue:

*SPOILER*

Loretta Bell: How'd you sleep?
Ed Tom Bell: I don't know. Had dreams.
Loretta Bell: Well you got time for 'em now. Anythin'
interesting?
Ed Tom Bell: They always is to the party concerned.
Loretta Bell: Ed Tom, I'll be polite.
Ed Tom Bell: Alright then. Two of 'em. Both had my father in
'em . It's peculiar. I'm older now then he ever was by
twenty years. So in a sense he's the younger man. Anyway,
first one I don't remember to well but it was about meeting
him in town somewhere, he's gonna give me some money. I
think I lost it. The second one, it was like we was both
back in older times and I was on horseback goin' through the
mountains of a night. Goin' through this pass in the
mountains. It was cold and there was snow on the ground and
he rode past me and kept on goin'. Never said nothin' goin'
by. He just rode on past... and he had his blanket wrapped
around him and his head down and when he rode past I seen he
was carryin' fire in a horn the way people used to do and I
could see the horn from the light inside of it. 'Bout the
color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin'
on ahead and he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out
there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that
whenever I got there he would be there. And then I woke up.


couldnt really ask for a better ending than that


 

offline Matik from Oregon (United States) on 2008-02-19 12:16 [#02177071]
Points: 24 Status: Lurker



*spoilers*

'cept it didn't end there as it could have, right? it went
on to have the killer toying with the girlfriend and then
the car crash, which i liked because as he was driving you
could see the green light and i was thinking "he's gonna get
smashed" but then it took longer than i thought so i was
thinking maybe he would not get rammed after all and then
BAM!

the three friends i was with all groaned when it ended, but
i laughed, as much at their groans as anything else, but
also because it was such a non-hollywood ending. really,
the whole movie was like some kind of anti-hollywood formula
statement. hero dies, pretty girl dies, tommy lee jones
doesn't accomplish shit and there's no resolution. haha.


 


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