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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-12-30 19:33 [#02159331]
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i like to argue that the subconscious is only a concept; its an idea used to locate things which are hard to find, almost like a closet.
if you watch the mind for long enough youll see that its just one volume, its not compartmentalized.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-12-30 19:42 [#02159336]
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also, what differentiaties us from animals is that we have this capacity to understand and to know the mind.
animals will always be controlled by their cravings. we have the opportunity to surpass our cravings and desires, and realise a more profound happiness.
we can make that happiness, peace and freedom our over-reaching desire.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-12-30 19:51 [#02159337]
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well done........ if it only took a week to work things out then you did really well.......... i'm still working on forgiving acts from 5 or 10 years ago..... some of them my own....... although, again, I feel I made a few steps in the right direction recently.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-12-30 19:53 [#02159339]
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and i'm listening to a sharma talk! cheers for the link
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-12-30 19:54 [#02159340]
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or a dharma talk even
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-12-30 19:59 [#02159341]
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youre welcome. theres so much gold in there.
things will all work out, if we have the heart to want it :)
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 01:44 [#02159369]
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Bold gold. You guys are bold. Bold because you talk about things like "heart' and "want". Do you really "want" anything but an invitation to the playboy mansion and a 20" jumbo frank? That weiner is ungrillably large!?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-12-31 01:53 [#02159374]
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if you must know, ive been fucked properly on many an occasion. but theres more to life than that :)
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2007-12-31 01:56 [#02159377]
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unt sausage
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-31 02:18 [#02159381]
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i can at this point only be envious of how darkpromenade and rockenjohnny choose to simply ignore all the bullshit that is being said here.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 02:57 [#02159387]
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Including your assholyness.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:08 [#02159390]
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buddhists should jack off 24/9
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-31 03:22 [#02159392]
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if you look closely, you'll find there was nothing wrong with this thread at all until barcode and you came in.
a more subtle approach by you might have been a better idea.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:25 [#02159393]
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Don't you give me advice...
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staz
on 2007-12-31 03:29 [#02159395]
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fucken gooks, they should all be gunned down by men from the 80s
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-31 03:34 [#02159404]
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f course to understand your thoughts and behavioral patterns is very useful, this is true intelligence. You do not need to meditate to do this, just be alert and understand to the best of your ability the effect your thoughts and words have on yourself and others. Why does any adult need a teacher to teach them that? It's the simplest thing ever.
In the field of psychological thought nobody can teach you anything you cannot learn yourself, you have exactly the same tools as they do. You have the same manual, the brain. This constant reaching out for others to help you is both unnecessary and highly damaging to the human being, this lack of self-responsibility has caused untold destruction.
I insist this meditation is completely bogus. Fooling yourself into thinking you know more than somebody else knows to make you feel more important or of higher value to other human beings - if you're honest that's what it's all about.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-31 03:38 [#02159405]
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"if you look closely, you'll find there was nothing wrong with this thread at all until barcode and you came in.
a more subtle approach by you might have been a better idea."
Sorry, but on this topic I don't see the necessity to wipe your ass for you like a baby. Maybe you're frightened and insecure about having your thoughts and preconceptions challenged having investigated so much bogus faith in them. Probably.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:41 [#02159406]
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LOL.
Eggy lightness nonwithstanding, I think it's important to know your own damn consciousness as well as the back of one's hand before embarking upon a fruitless journey of spiritual complacency. I'm about to start my own friggin religion!
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staz
on 2007-12-31 03:42 [#02159407]
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practice what you preach
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:44 [#02159408]
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I also think that undermining laughter and humor is a fucking SIN, so you folks that take yourselves to seriously, sit on your little 120$ consciousness pillow and figure out what really, REALLY has made you laugh in the past week.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:44 [#02159409]
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to = so
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:47 [#02159410]
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person = penistassle
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2007-12-31 03:50 [#02159412]
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the letter a = snazzlepenis
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staz
on 2007-12-31 03:51 [#02159413]
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gew equals few
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-12-31 04:04 [#02159414]
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"just be alert and understand to the best of your ability the effect your thoughts and words have
on yourself and others. Why does any adult need a teacher to
teach them that? It's the simplest thing ever."
I completely agree with you :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-12-31 16:44 [#02159624]
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thousands of years of practise says that meditation works.
in my own experience, it works.
'Fooling yourself into thinking you know more than somebody else knows to make you feel more important or of higher value to other human beings'
those are the very words of an ego roaming out of control. how can you be so certain that you know best on this issue?
furthermore, the purpose of meditation is the opposite of an 'ego boost'; among the goals are to end judgment and to deconstruct the ego - this is why we talk about non-self!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-11-03 18:06 [#02249901]
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for my birthday, i'll give myself 10 days to a place where to practice vipassana 12 hours a day. i'm self-taughting meditation from some weeks but i think it needs some guidance to get the best from it. it's not a religious belief, it's a technique. it's not something that makes you think you are better than someone else, but something that makes you think you are no less than someone else. and of course, regardless of the path that brings you there, being humble is the key. even for those who don't know what they are talking about.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 16:29 [#02253574]
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wow i didn't realise there were so many ways to meditate, but don't they all achieve the same result?
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Tomi
from Poland on 2008-11-19 16:38 [#02253577]
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congrats darkpromenade. what a coincidence. i had a very pure moment during my meditation for about 10 minutes yesterday before sleep. instant acid action but not a flashback. it was something that cant be described just like that. flash of the beggining and the end of everything, with some nice visuals behind the eyelids that lasted for like 15 sec and then the pure feeling of full awerness and nothingness/fullness?. keep up with your exercises.
some bud worked as a catalist for me. but its not necesery. just a method
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RussellDust
on 2008-11-19 16:48 [#02253585]
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"flash of the beggining and the end of everything"
please go on
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Tomi
from Poland on 2008-11-19 16:52 [#02253586]
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nothing to go on really. like in other thread. the neverending loop of the cycles. normal part of some level gained in meditation i think. a basic thing in buddism.
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RussellDust
on 2008-11-19 16:54 [#02253588]
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Ah right, yeah.
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Tomi
from Poland on 2008-11-19 16:55 [#02253589]
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ya man and nothing else
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 16:57 [#02253591]
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how could i learn this without having to spend hundreds on a course? i'm interested in transcendental meditation
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