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Dagibit
from USA on 2007-12-05 00:17 [#02150802]
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I killed my hermit crabs by not giving them water or something, and 2 of my 3 gerbils and a hamster because I was a horrible piece of shit kid. I never intended to hurt them, but was just so fucking careless and thoughtless. If I knew my passed dog was somewhere up there I would like to imagine myself with a pet kiwi.
I greatly admire your caring, and awesome thread title!
Also, did you see the Disney movie I am thinking of (yes, that one), and what did you think of it. Just because.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 00:20 [#02150803]
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no i still havent seen it! everyone says i should but i just keep missing it.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-05 02:39 [#02150825]
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ratatoui. . .or whatever?
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-05 04:03 [#02150830]
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Poor rat. Shouldn't you have noticed earlier it was distressed? You didn't do anything until his eye was popping out.
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Dagibit
from USA on 2007-12-05 04:05 [#02150831]
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yes.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-12-05 05:00 [#02150838]
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My cat's reply.
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-05 05:30 [#02150841]
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my friends rat died in a vodka-related drowning accident.
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2007-12-05 05:39 [#02150842]
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my friends rat died when it caught vermin : (
but in this case Get well soon Mr Rat !
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-05 05:59 [#02150843]
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mr brazil haha
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-12-05 07:03 [#02150848]
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keep on cruisin'.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-05 07:35 [#02150859]
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WTF! im guessing noone else clicked this link because there were no comments on it.
i dont know what that rat thing was, but watching it being skinned alive was terrible :O
and then they pulled this white dog out of a cage and i had to stop watching.
that shit was easily 10x worse than 2girls1cup, or any other shock stuff i've seen on the internet : (
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oyvinto
on 2007-12-05 07:39 [#02150861]
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terrible, yes. i had to close down the stream before i got to any white dog..
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-05 08:25 [#02150874]
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i didnt see anything bad happen to the dog, but i dont think they were taking it out of the cage to take it for a walk or anything.
watching it made me wanna help stop what they were doing, but theres like so many other things id wanna help out with as well.. surely enough, im just gonna sit on my ass and forget about it, and surely enough it's gonna make me feel like a jerk for not doing anything about it.
perhaps i'll just find solace in not eating kfc chicken.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-05 08:26 [#02150875]
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stop what they were doing > they being the ones who put up the video, not the ones skinning the animals, obviously.
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Dagibit
from USA on 2007-12-05 09:31 [#02150893]
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I saw it, and that's what made me go nuts on myself a few posts up. I hate myself as a kid.
God, I hate those stupid damn faces follow your cursor.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-12-05 09:39 [#02150902]
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cripes, mr brazil, you are one insensitive fuck.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-05 09:46 [#02150908]
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yea living a life in captivity isn't nice in the first place, and then you have wanton brutality to top it all off... Much of people's lack of care or concern is caused by ignorance and/or denial. What strikes me even more than people's ability to be cruel is the lack of self-education by most people. It only makes it worse how unnecessary all of this cruelty is. For what gain?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 09:48 [#02150909]
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well theyre thinking it was trauma, so there wasnt exactly anything i could have predicted. he had the trauma and then his eye was popping out, not much in terms of lead up for me to prevent that.
if youre somehow implying that i dont take care of/pay attention to my rats (whom i have had for 2.5 years now), well, look at the rest of this thread. youre fuckin wrong dude.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-05 10:31 [#02150932]
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YOU PAID 436 DOLLARS TO GET A RAT REPAIRED?!??!?!!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 12:20 [#02151005]
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so you would choose money over a loved one?
i mean, this is a being i have raised since it was about the size of a peanut. i have loved it, fed it, taken care of it its entire life.
do you know of any parent who would not pay $50,000 to save their child? $500,000? i mean, at this point his life he is not in danger, what kind of person would that make me if i said, "yeah, you have a good chance of surviving, but my wallet just cant handle it. tough shit for you."
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-12-05 12:36 [#02151011]
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My cat's reply.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-05 15:44 [#02151085]
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your cat's got a mouth...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-05 16:19 [#02151101]
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yeah, but you know, its a rat?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 16:47 [#02151114]
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why do people equate a pet's importance with its size?
would you be saying the same thing if he was a dog or a cat?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-12-05 16:52 [#02151117]
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To be honest (not to be insincere), I don't think he was referring to the size of the animal, but rather the cost of a replacement. Pedigree puppies with all the shots and vet certifications can cost thousands of dollars, therefore a 400 dollar surgery bill is cheaper than the cost of an entire new pet. I'm not saying that I wouldn't get attached to a rat, but that, economically, I understand where chuck is coming from. (If that is indeed where he is coming from. If not, sorry for talking out of my arse.)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 16:56 [#02151119]
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i understand that but being attached to a pet is not an economical matter. they're not investments.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-05 17:10 [#02151126]
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Thak you, I feel good now.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-12-05 18:21 [#02151139]
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(Ads by Google)
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-05 18:48 [#02151149]
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hey rats are very nice pets, friendly. man iv had an abcess before so i can relate to the little bugger, im glad he's ok
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-12-05 18:50 [#02151152]
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"can we see one of her with her rat out, please?"
-Bob (xltronic member)
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-05 18:56 [#02151154]
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If people really cared about rats, rabbits, fish they wouldn't keep them. How would you like to live your life locked up? They should be out in the wild, it's ridiculous.
People say they love animals then take them out of their natural environment for their own selfish pleasures. Pure hypocrisy.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-05 19:21 [#02151161]
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i was just trying to think of a reply to that, your right in some ways, i suppose cats are ok to have, dogs need someone to lead them, hmmm other pets like snakes lizards ect, maybe they should be left alone i dont know
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-05 19:36 [#02151165]
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well #1 my rats weren't taken from the wild. a friend of a friend had the mother and we were given four of them. also, i think my rats would be much happier running around with their siblings, being warm, being fed, and being safe from predators (of which there are many for rats) than the opposite of these options. wouldn't you?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-12-05 21:42 [#02151210]
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wrong. they should be in my lab helping me cure diabetes.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-05 21:43 [#02151211]
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LAZY_TITLE
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-12-06 01:39 [#02151224]
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I loved the movie Ratatouille. Highly recommended
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-06 04:05 [#02151247]
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Zephyr, yes, you're absolutely right, thats exactly what im saying. I would also have to agree with Barcode aswell, if you really gave a shit you wouldn't lock it in a small cage for your own enjoyment.
hedphukker: "i think my rats would be much happier running around with their siblings, being warm, being fed, and being safe from predators (of which there are many for rats) than the opposite of these options. wouldn't you? "
that is exactly the unatural approach im talking about. you talk about a rat being happy or unhappy as if it were functioning as a human being. it just doesnt work that way.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-06 04:33 [#02151255]
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Precisely, you have a romantic notion that your warm, cosy rat is a happy rat. This couldn't be further from the truth, these animals live on pure instinct, they're not human. Even if it was happy, it wouldn't know it's happy anyway. If you deny it the space and habitat it should be living in it will get depressed and anxious. Everything it's programmed to do is unable to function properly.
If you take chimpanzees for example. Apparently it's very very dangerous transporting them from one country to another. If they are locked in a cage for long periods the depression and anxiety can literally kill them. So how can you expect certain domestic animals to be "happy" when they are locked up practically their whole lives.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-12-06 04:51 [#02151258]
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PETA
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-06 06:18 [#02151283]
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bogala, i do not dislike you.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-12-06 10:37 [#02151336]
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so you're unfamiliar with domestication, eh? that's fine, but don't try to impose your views on others when you seem to know nothing at all about human/animal bonds.
you've apparently never known a domesticated rat that enjoyed the company of friendly animals. try it; rats can make good friends. they are not human, neither are they unfeeling
machines.
regarding the cage, rats are used to small living spaces. a rat can live healthy and happy if the living space is not too small. if there is food, fresh water, space for exercise, cozy bedding, friendly rat cohabitants and opportunities for stimulation they will not want for anything. they will not desire to seek out what they already have!
while it's true they are very different from humans, they unquestionably enjoy (in a ratty way) friendly interactions.
for the record, i do agree with your sentiments regarding animals that are not domesticated. i don't visit zoos, etc. i don't feel that birds should be caged or their wings clipped.
you still need to look at members of a given species as individuals. they are not as complex as humans but their environment and their experiences shape their experience in the now.
that was my humble opinion...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-12-06 10:41 [#02151337]
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i'm done following any links from you, mr brazil.
i asked my cats to give you some reply, i will assume that they are purring madly for you.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-06 12:17 [#02151352]
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im sorry, i knew this day would come plaidzebra, ill have to completely and honestly disagree with almost everything in that post. rats rely purely on instinct and therefore your post is void or american science.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-06 12:21 [#02151356]
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you're a fag
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-06 12:24 [#02151358]
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i knew that would upset someone like you.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-06 12:25 [#02151360]
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i think everyone on here just laughs at what you say.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-06 12:26 [#02151361]
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like have you ever watched the kids in the hall? do you know the character darill? i bet youre just like that.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-06 12:34 [#02151364]
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i couldn't care less about what you think dude.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-06 13:12 [#02151375]
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Well I don;t laugh at what he says. Stop being a prick.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-12-06 15:24 [#02151404]
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thanks zebra, you said that better than i could have.
and its not like it even matters, because the fact remains that he is a domesticated rat and he is much happier now than if he had died from a massive facial infection/eye popping out of his head.
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