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offline epohs from )C: on 2006-01-26 10:57 [#01827792]
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Yes, honestly it is deeply disturbing.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 10:58 [#01827794]
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though I am already betrothed to Phobiazero with his manly
TNT cologne, I would have you as my lover. <3


 

offline mrgypsum on 2006-01-26 11:00 [#01827795]
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i would feel that same as you if i saw that anywhere near my
neck of the us of a, good thing for the internet and drugs
huh? i can now be distracted from things such as this


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2006-01-26 11:00 [#01827797]
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Yeah thats nuts.... But being straight forward about
religion is everywhere... "In God We Trust"

And about the marry comment... good one that made me laugh.
For that I would say im a crazy athiest who loves S&M, but
I'm not I believe in God. Would say I'm a Protestant, but I
rather just say I'm a child of God and believe. :) taaadaaa


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-26 11:03 [#01827800]
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The ridiculing is aimed not to convince anyone but to
maintain our sanity. I don't think you can argue people out
of believing in literalist fundamentalist religion. They'll
either find it themselves or they won't. Still, it doesn't
hurt to do some mocking that contains a core of truth,
direct people to skeptical essays and websites, and so on,
for those who are coming to their senses.

And no one's trying to ban the teaching of creationism -
what, are we going to start burning down churches? We'll
leave that to the Norwegians. :-) We just don't want it
taught in school on the public dime, and certainly not to
the exclusion of more reality-based theories. :D If you're a
nutjob who wants to screw up your kid's education you can
home-school or send him to a religious school.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-01-26 11:03 [#01827801]
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yep. i just try not to drive that way, and talk to people
on the internets until i forget about it.

:)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-01-26 11:05 [#01827802]
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"If you're a nutjob who wants to screw up your kid's
education you can home-school or send him to a religious
school. "

haha, i would LOL, but my bosses would hear and i'd be
excommunicated from the company.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-01-26 11:08 [#01827803]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



I was going to stop in to post my religion when I see there
are many people discussing my multi-appendaged diety, the
flying spagetti monster. I assure you he is real and not a
made up story! As a fifth generation Italian immigrant to
the Americas I have seen with my own eyes the proofs that He
is without a doubt the one true God. All of my relatives
take great joy in cooking a meal that resembles him. This
predates many generations back to the old country in which
my great great great grandfathers nana prepared legendary
spagetti dishes that tasted so good that it could only be
explained as a miracle bestowed by the Flying Spagetti God
Himself. The townsfolk tried to disprove her cooking by
posioning her tasty meatballs but legend has it that when
she served the posion meatballs to her family, they didn't
die and, in fact, lived an extra 50 years while their future
generations were granted marvelous talents and strikingly
good looks. Meanwhile the rest of the villagers died in
Pompeii as a direct result for going against the Spagetti
Monster. So you see, this is not a fairy tale as it has
direct ties to history and my bloodline.


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offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 11:25 [#01827810]
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well, you may not be able to convince them god doesn't
exist, and people who try stuff like that are silly
anyway... however, you could possibly convince them that
state and church should be separate.. Mill has some good
arguing on this in his "On Liberty," where you'll also find
a somewhat more polished version of my thoughts on learning
and the right of every thought to be presented. Mind you, I
did have some similar ideas before I read Mill, so it's a
question of me being influenced by him, he wasn't what
necessarily gave me the idea in the first place (most of the
time when you read philosophy, it's more "yes, I've kind of
thought of that before, but this guy actually manages to get
it down in words and with lots of good arguments for it!"
instead of what I think r40f once said about it being a
study for those who want others' thoughts so that they don't
have to think for themselves or whatever.. I don't know how
serious he was, but that seemed like a very silly claim, so
don't think he was very serious (especially considering the
fact that there aren't any classes at all in any
study where the lecturer goes "oh, just think for yourself
and you'll figure it our!")).


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2006-01-26 11:28 [#01827811]
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i believe in what i see when i smoke.
btw, im special and i know when armageddon is. i can save
the earth, and i will. no one else can.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 11:28 [#01827812]
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sorry about that last part, I just felt I should make it
clear to avoid people doing the usual "oh, you've just read
Mill (last semester)! HAH!" and using it like something
derogatory (I never quite got why that actually works.. it's
kind of like making someone seem silly because he hasn't
known everything since birth.. you study, you discover new
things. If you tell someone who's known it an hour longer,
they go "oh, HAH! did you just read Mill or what?!" and then
it's like they "won" something...)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 11:29 [#01827814]
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unneccessary post.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-26 11:37 [#01827820]
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actually, that's an interesting post. some people *do* use
their knowledge as an ego tool to prove that they are
"better" or "special." they do this with electronical
musics, too...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 12:00 [#01827832]
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yeah, it's one of the silliest ways of making oneself seem
better than others... "I have known this longer than you HA
HA you are silly!"


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-01-26 12:20 [#01827842]
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that is a correct statement.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-26 12:51 [#01827870]
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there's this thing you wrote about me here that i don't
understand... followed by plaidzebra insinuating that i
have an ego trip, i guess?

i'd like to know what's going on


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-26 13:02 [#01827884]
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i'm not necessarily saying that you were motivated by the
ego desire to be "special" or "better." i just thought it
was an interesting observation for this thread. some people
also use their faith as an ego crutch, some even use their
lack of faith.

even more to the point, i defy you to name one person on
this board who isn't at some points on an ego trip. i think
almost everyone from time to time, secretly or openly, gives
in to the temptation to think of themselves as "special," or
"better."



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-26 13:03 [#01827886]
Points: 14210 Status: Regular



i have never once criticized anyone here for their religious
beliefs or even tried to persuade anyone to think
differently. if you interpreted my posts as an excercise in
ego, that's your own grossly-uninformed charicature of
someone you don't know.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-01-26 13:05 [#01827888]
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I have a crazy ego but that is only is real life and was
more present in my past.

Just wanted to answer that for fun


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 13:05 [#01827889]
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oh, I didn't say anything about you going on an ego trip.. I
just remember some thread in which you may or may not have
been joking (most likely joking) where you said something
about the study of philosophy being for people who can't
think for themselves or something (since quite a large bit
of the study is about the history of philosophy, and we thus
read lots of books by other people, but there are other
parts of the study too).

I think the thread was simply called "philosophy" or
something like that and the person who made it was just
asking who else studied philosophy...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-26 13:06 [#01827890]
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are you talking to me?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-26 13:08 [#01827891]
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ok, that's something i do remember... that was much more of
a flippant, joke-y remark. i'm guilty of doing those at the
worst times.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 13:09 [#01827892]
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'ere we are


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-26 13:10 [#01827893]
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it's for whoever needs to read it.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-26 13:10 [#01827895]
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haha, yeah, I thought as much.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-26 13:13 [#01827901]
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i guess that's another one of your flippant, jokey
responses...



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-26 13:33 [#01827921]
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no, it's a real response and not a joke


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-01-26 14:20 [#01827968]
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i'm a genetic scientist and microbiologist. i stick to what
i can understand.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-26 14:40 [#01827983]
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wow, all this god talk. theres two issues here really,
whether you are religious or not, or whether you take
religion literally or not (i.e. the intelligent design crap)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-01-26 14:53 [#01828001]
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Roman Catholic, officially, but my feelings about faith are
ever-changing and amorphous. Sometimes I find myself WANTING
to be more, I dunno, ''hardcore'' about it, but there's also
some agnostic stations in my brain and soul. My relationship
with my faith is not a close or stable one, but it
definitely exists. I'm not sure how I'd define my
spirituality, I'm working on it, I'm open minded and got
lots of time. I seem to jack off a lot.


 

offline hAnkyPhexTwin from Tucson, Arizona (United States) on 2006-01-26 15:11 [#01828029]
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Raised Christian and still am Christian. Though I'm not the
goody goody two shoes doesn't cuss Christian.


 

offline Ganymede from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2006-01-26 19:16 [#01828107]
Points: 1045 Status: Lurker



First off, I love you Jay; I'm sure you're doing fine re:
spirituality.

Second, I'm eclectic. I was raised conservative Protestant
Christian but doubted it very early. Now I'd call myself a
pagan taoist dervish. I feel most simpatico with the views
expressed by plaidzebra, Drunken Mastah and fleetmouse on
this thread.

There is no step three.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-01-27 02:05 [#01828246]
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_________________________________________
CONCLUSIONS FROM MY SCIENTIFIC POST

a) God is a load of cobblers.

b) Christianity is the best religion for keeping the
peasants in line.

c) Well, better than all those crazy-ass, foreign
mumbo-jumbo religions, anyway.

d) I am both an atheist and an ultraconservative.

Thankyou for your time.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-27 02:28 [#01828260]
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Christian.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-01-27 03:48 [#01828298]
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I'm a
non-revolutionary-proto-yogic-buddhist-anarchist...........

4 reel.


 

offline solariumface from brussels (Belgium) on 2006-01-27 07:49 [#01828402]
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Monoids comment made me think of this:LAZY_TITLE


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-27 11:26 [#01828495]
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arf, all i can say is ???


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-01-27 11:36 [#01828500]
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i am not a religious person


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-28 03:04 [#01828874]
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this is my religion

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/incons
istencies.html


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-28 03:08 [#01828876]
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the only evidence for some sort of big bloke in the sky is
from some old book that doesnt even date from the times its
on about. the new testament, at least, was written in the
500s by monks.

im not religious, ive never found god myself, but if i do
ill be sure to tie him to the floor and piss all over his
face.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-28 06:17 [#01828936]
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it's not only the book.. it's everything around you..
bushes, trees, rocks, people.. and yourself. so there.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-01-29 20:37 [#01829930]
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im an agnostic with buddhist leanings, meaning i agree with
many of the statements it makes, ie the four noble truths,
but dont believe in reincarnation, the 7 realms, etc.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-01-29 20:38 [#01829931]
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oh, and i would have hoped the ID discussion wouldve stayed
in the ID thread, but i guess not.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-29 22:49 [#01829969]
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Ok, I posted it.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-29 22:52 [#01829970]
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I think you're getting into heaven dude.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-29 22:55 [#01829972]
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memetics totally owned all religion. It's disturbing how
similar a chain letter recieved in the mail and a religious
pamphlet recieved in the mail are. It's like looking at two
closely related biological specimens. Religion is just
like... so primitive now. All of life evolved from
bacteria... and regular bacteria are still around. Similarly
religion is still around.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-29 23:06 [#01829973]
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I think the true god is a jack in the box antenna ball. In
life we are all his employees.


 


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