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offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 10:36 [#02003887]
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It got quite blustery in this thread with Barcode doing
quite so much backpedaling.


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-11-17 10:40 [#02003889]
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Btw Barcode, you are an addict. Xlt has got you. Prepare to
embark on a journey of high-profile b7s, spam, sarcasm,
irony, wit, suicidal members and Monoid.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 10:41 [#02003892]
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Personally, I prefer to visit a record store website and
listen to the MP3 samples rather than read through 99.9% of
the music reviews I see online. Indeed, simply reading
Barcodes posts are enough to bore me senseless - his online
reviews would probably send me to sleep.

Art is 100% subjective. Are reviews pointless? They are good
for exposing people to new music, but I always take ratings
with a grain of salt. Apart from my own of course ;)


 

online big from lsg on 2006-11-17 10:44 [#02003894]
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i just read amg, but then everything there


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-11-17 10:49 [#02003898]
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at least he left on a humorous note.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 10:51 [#02003900]
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hey you guys I have no life

really - it is mirrored in my responses


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 10:53 [#02003902]
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What, rolling out the old chestnut about "get a life you
saddoes" when it was he himself who's just dragged up a year
old thread to bang on about it

Admitedly that is quite funny.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:00 [#02003906]
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yeah

i'm sure most of us noticed already, though. but thanks for
the warning.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 11:07 [#02003912]
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"The criteria for sending material to Barcode for review is
as follows:

> No vinyl - we only review CD's & DVD's"

What? How can an electronic music journal not want to review
vinyl? Bearing in mind that a huge share of electronic music
is released on vinyl (and often exclusively), what possible
reason could barcode have to reject it? Maybe he doesn't own
a turntable? I don't trust any man who doesn't have at least
one turntable.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 11:09 [#02003914]
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Oh, and the design is horrible.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 11:14 [#02003917]
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no worries, I just hope none of you ever believed I was ever
not here.. I just log off and lurk for a while just
to make it look like I'm doing other stuff.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:24 [#02003921]
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I know, I thought I'd been bounced to a page advertising
ringtones.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:25 [#02003922]
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hahahaha

we can smell you by now. whether you're logged on or off, it
doesn't matter. and even when you're actually not here, the
smell stays.

yes, you can thank us for staying around! (for a moment i
wanted to do the stank you very much pun...but i didn't.
it's a bad pun. you may even thank me for not having made
it)


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:36 [#02003935]
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Let's just pick it apart for the fun of it.

BARCODE REVIEW OF AUTECHRE line by painful line.

Almost 2 years after Draft 7.30, Autechre offer a swift
response with a brand new album.


How is two years later swift response?

I must confess that I have never really figured out the
attraction of Autechre, and I’m not sure there really is
anything to figure out.


Danger signals already flickering into life.

The duo, comprising of Sean Booth and Rob Brown, have
made a career out of supplying sample driven, cutting edge
noise albums


... are we talking about a different Autechre than the one
commonly known as Autechre?

that have been mostly rewarded with great acclaim,
albeit by the snobbish aristocrats of the avant-garde, like
The Wire,


Sweeping generalisation based on author's own insanity.

but personally I have found little justification for
their legendary status. Perhaps Autechre were just in the
right place at the right time, a period when abstract
electronica was peeling strips off electro pop and techno
and creating new mosaics; they earned themselves a label,
and as we all know, labels stick.


Well, they were pioneers so I guess being at the begining
was a help.

Electronic music itself has too often been labelled with
the emotionally retarded tag,


What?

but as ridiculous as that is

It is.

its artists like Autechre that have often provided
convincing argument for the cynic. However patronising this
may sound, I often listen to Autechre and wonder if these
guys are for real, or merely taking advantage of a gullable
audience that wants to be part of something novel and unique
at the expense of even liking the music.


Pure paranoid fantasy, but carry on. And in this instance
it's "it's".

Are Autechre just a self-perpetuating myth, fawned over
by electro trainspotters?


You said above Autechre are two blokes called Sean and Rob,
apparently now they're a myth.



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:37 [#02003936]
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Untilted begins with LCC, and a trio of punchy beats
punctuate a familiar computerised tinny loop. The music then
evolves, bleeding deliberately off-key melodic stabs and
bass tones into a vacant atmosphere – it’s
indistinguishable from anything they’ve previously
recorded.


(The boldness is mine) Just to illustrate the absurdity of
this dribble, a large proportion of their hardcore fanbase
was convinced the album was fake as it apparently didn't
sound like Autechre. Hardly "indistiguishable" from anything
they previously recorded.

On the rare occasion that Autechre crawl towards an
unsophisticated commercial template, they sound alarmingly
similar to Aphex Twin – almost clone-like.


You are ill in the ears, even my dad wouldn't say something
like "all this techno music sounds the same".

On Augmatic Disport, Autechre even try to out-do
Squarepusher, with drill’n’bass beats


No they don't.

that eclipse the 300 bpm mark, but this lacks
Jenkinson’s personality. I doubt Autechre would imagine
that they deserve to be compared to anyone, but one can’t
quite help comparing inferior music to its superior
contemporaries.


You mean you can't.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-11-17 11:45 [#02003941]
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heh..comparing autechre, aphex and squarepusher music is
just weird. they have very little in common, except that
they are all on warp..or


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:47 [#02003943]
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hahaha!

you realise you've made a line by line review of a review?
my god, just thinking of the implications make my head spin
(which happens regularly though)


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:49 [#02003944]
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Ipacial Section continues Autechre’s fondness for
sequencing samples and spewing them out in repetitive
machine gun splattered surges.


Samples? You've heard of synths, right?

As hard as I try to focus, I find there’s nothing to
focus on, yet all the time condemning – this has no body,
it’s all fluff. As Untilted wears on it wears you out, as
non-progressive loops and minimal electro vignettes blur,
spiral and revolve around eachother like flies banging their
heads against your bedroom window.


Proably your problem, not theirs.

Autechre treat melody like it was a repugnant fart, and
appear to refute all notions of rhythm just for the sake of
it.


You dropped the ball there, spectacularly, not even worth
expanding on.

Serious question? Is their really any thing behind their
art?


Serious question? What?

This has been a remarkably negative review, but I won’t
change my mind tomorrow


It's been a remarkably sustained display of ignorance

– it’s time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Who are you talking to now?

Once again Autechre attempt to get away with passing
water off as wine, and good luck to them if they can keep
getting away with it. I’m not denying they have done
interesting things in the past, even unique, but times have
changed and Autechre have simply stood still,


Oh, come on.

wrapped up in their status as the kings of avant-garde
cutting edge electronic music. Untitled is so bereft of new
ideas, so lacking in personal progression, and so mentally
unchallenging, that this time the IDM crowd might well call
their bluff.


I can only conclude you've reviewed the Flourescent Grey
fake Untilted album and you no more get sent CDs by Warp
than my cat does.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 11:51 [#02003945]
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hahahah!

I'm getting a glass of whisky before I finish reading this

I want to cherish it


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-11-17 11:54 [#02003946]
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It may have been a straightforward process (the review is
dreadful, no research, not the right reviewer), but this may
be the biggest pwning I've ever seen.


 

offline OK on 2006-11-17 19:53 [#02004160]
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well that's stupid, because without reviewers you would know
about new music. it's a guide to what you might or might not
be interested in. the demographic of barcode magazine
probably wont like untilted.

so what you're saying is that reviewers should only review
music that they like? what for? it's not the point of
reviewers to praise or/and intellectualize about music
they're meant to be a guide as to what you might
like/dislike, a buyers guide.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2006-11-17 21:18 [#02004190]
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Read thread.


 


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