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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 10:36 [#02003887]
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It got quite blustery in this thread with Barcode doing quite so much backpedaling.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-11-17 10:40 [#02003889]
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Btw Barcode, you are an addict. Xlt has got you. Prepare to embark on a journey of high-profile b7s, spam, sarcasm, irony, wit, suicidal members and Monoid.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 10:41 [#02003892]
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Personally, I prefer to visit a record store website and listen to the MP3 samples rather than read through 99.9% of the music reviews I see online. Indeed, simply reading Barcodes posts are enough to bore me senseless - his online reviews would probably send me to sleep.
Art is 100% subjective. Are reviews pointless? They are good for exposing people to new music, but I always take ratings with a grain of salt. Apart from my own of course ;)
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big
from lsg on 2006-11-17 10:44 [#02003894]
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i just read amg, but then everything there
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-11-17 10:49 [#02003898]
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at least he left on a humorous note.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 10:51 [#02003900]
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hey you guys I have no life
really - it is mirrored in my responses
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 10:53 [#02003902]
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What, rolling out the old chestnut about "get a life you saddoes" when it was he himself who's just dragged up a year old thread to bang on about it
Admitedly that is quite funny.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:00 [#02003906]
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yeah
i'm sure most of us noticed already, though. but thanks for the warning.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 11:07 [#02003912]
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"The criteria for sending material to Barcode for review is as follows:
> No vinyl - we only review CD's & DVD's"
What? How can an electronic music journal not want to review vinyl? Bearing in mind that a huge share of electronic music is released on vinyl (and often exclusively), what possible reason could barcode have to reject it? Maybe he doesn't own a turntable? I don't trust any man who doesn't have at least one turntable.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-11-17 11:09 [#02003914]
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Oh, and the design is horrible.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 11:14 [#02003917]
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no worries, I just hope none of you ever believed I was ever not here.. I just log off and lurk for a while just to make it look like I'm doing other stuff.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:24 [#02003921]
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I know, I thought I'd been bounced to a page advertising ringtones.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:25 [#02003922]
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hahahaha
we can smell you by now. whether you're logged on or off, it doesn't matter. and even when you're actually not here, the smell stays.
yes, you can thank us for staying around! (for a moment i wanted to do the stank you very much pun...but i didn't. it's a bad pun. you may even thank me for not having made it)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:36 [#02003935]
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Let's just pick it apart for the fun of it.
BARCODE REVIEW OF AUTECHRE line by painful line.
Almost 2 years after Draft 7.30, Autechre offer a swift response with a brand new album.
How is two years later swift response?
I must confess that I have never really figured out the attraction of Autechre, and I’m not sure there really is anything to figure out.
Danger signals already flickering into life.
The duo, comprising of Sean Booth and Rob Brown, have made a career out of supplying sample driven, cutting edge noise albums
... are we talking about a different Autechre than the one commonly known as Autechre?
that have been mostly rewarded with great acclaim, albeit by the snobbish aristocrats of the avant-garde, like The Wire,
Sweeping generalisation based on author's own insanity.
but personally I have found little justification for their legendary status. Perhaps Autechre were just in the right place at the right time, a period when abstract electronica was peeling strips off electro pop and techno and creating new mosaics; they earned themselves a label, and as we all know, labels stick.
Well, they were pioneers so I guess being at the begining was a help.
Electronic music itself has too often been labelled with the emotionally retarded tag,
What?
but as ridiculous as that is
It is.
its artists like Autechre that have often provided convincing argument for the cynic. However patronising this may sound, I often listen to Autechre and wonder if these guys are for real, or merely taking advantage of a gullable audience that wants to be part of something novel and unique at the expense of even liking the music.
Pure paranoid fantasy, but carry on. And in this instance it's "it's".
Are Autechre just a self-perpetuating myth, fawned over by electro trainspotters?
You said above Autechre are two blokes called Sean and Rob, apparently now they're a myth.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:37 [#02003936]
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Untilted begins with LCC, and a trio of punchy beats punctuate a familiar computerised tinny loop. The music then evolves, bleeding deliberately off-key melodic stabs and bass tones into a vacant atmosphere – it’s indistinguishable from anything they’ve previously recorded.
(The boldness is mine) Just to illustrate the absurdity of this dribble, a large proportion of their hardcore fanbase was convinced the album was fake as it apparently didn't sound like Autechre. Hardly "indistiguishable" from anything they previously recorded.
On the rare occasion that Autechre crawl towards an unsophisticated commercial template, they sound alarmingly similar to Aphex Twin – almost clone-like.
You are ill in the ears, even my dad wouldn't say something like "all this techno music sounds the same".
On Augmatic Disport, Autechre even try to out-do Squarepusher, with drill’n’bass beats
No they don't.
that eclipse the 300 bpm mark, but this lacks Jenkinson’s personality. I doubt Autechre would imagine that they deserve to be compared to anyone, but one can’t quite help comparing inferior music to its superior contemporaries.
You mean you can't.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-11-17 11:45 [#02003941]
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heh..comparing autechre, aphex and squarepusher music is just weird. they have very little in common, except that they are all on warp..or
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-11-17 11:47 [#02003943]
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hahaha!
you realise you've made a line by line review of a review? my god, just thinking of the implications make my head spin (which happens regularly though)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-17 11:49 [#02003944]
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Ipacial Section continues Autechre’s fondness for sequencing samples and spewing them out in repetitive machine gun splattered surges.
Samples? You've heard of synths, right?
As hard as I try to focus, I find there’s nothing to focus on, yet all the time condemning – this has no body, it’s all fluff. As Untilted wears on it wears you out, as non-progressive loops and minimal electro vignettes blur, spiral and revolve around eachother like flies banging their heads against your bedroom window.
Proably your problem, not theirs.
Autechre treat melody like it was a repugnant fart, and appear to refute all notions of rhythm just for the sake of it.
You dropped the ball there, spectacularly, not even worth expanding on.
Serious question? Is their really any thing behind their art?
Serious question? What?
This has been a remarkably negative review, but I won’t change my mind tomorrow
It's been a remarkably sustained display of ignorance
– it’s time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Who are you talking to now?
Once again Autechre attempt to get away with passing water off as wine, and good luck to them if they can keep getting away with it. I’m not denying they have done interesting things in the past, even unique, but times have changed and Autechre have simply stood still,
Oh, come on.
wrapped up in their status as the kings of avant-garde cutting edge electronic music. Untitled is so bereft of new ideas, so lacking in personal progression, and so mentally unchallenging, that this time the IDM crowd might well call their bluff.
I can only conclude you've reviewed the Flourescent Grey fake Untilted album and you no more get sent CDs by Warp than my cat does.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-17 11:51 [#02003945]
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hahahah!
I'm getting a glass of whisky before I finish reading this
I want to cherish it
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-11-17 11:54 [#02003946]
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It may have been a straightforward process (the review is dreadful, no research, not the right reviewer), but this may be the biggest pwning I've ever seen.
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OK
on 2006-11-17 19:53 [#02004160]
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well that's stupid, because without reviewers you would know about new music. it's a guide to what you might or might not be interested in. the demographic of barcode magazine probably wont like untilted.
so what you're saying is that reviewers should only review music that they like? what for? it's not the point of reviewers to praise or/and intellectualize about music they're meant to be a guide as to what you might like/dislike, a buyers guide.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-11-17 21:18 [#02004190]
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Read thread.
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