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offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-04-14 13:09 [#01565153]
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I see SubPop as the US coorelative (in indie rock) to what
Warp is in the UK for electronic.

Perhaps, they should just do an electronic SubLabel. The
only other "semi-major" that seems to get equal distro and
somewhat similar recognition would be planet-mu, which
obviously has an entire different thing going on. Oh, then
there's Schematic and N5MD, but I dont think that would work
either.

So in a way, as far as distro is concerned they're a bit
fucked. Maybe Touch, who knows. RDJ has rephlex, Mike P
has Mu. AE should just start their own label proper, since
they know what they like so much.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-04-14 15:20 [#01565350]
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There have always been people saying that warp has passed
its prime... at least when I was getting into it. Its funny.
People are using drukqs as an example of good warp releases,
but back when that came out, a lot of people were saying
that afx has lost it, and that it indicated that warp was no
longer producing good quality electronic music.

I remember when Brothemstates and the Other People Place
came out, and everybody "in the scene" was complaining about
what warp was releasing was more of a parody of itself,
because they are idm producers that were obviously
influenced by the 'great' idm producers, and not originators
themselves...

Warp will be around for a long time still, as long as people
have an interest in listening to left-wing electronic style
music. They wouldn't be expanding into a rap label and a
film company if they were worried about going under as
everybody seems to think.

And I don't know what you guys are talking about this
chokrock stuff being awfull. I am listening to it, and it
sounds to be good fun. You people need to learn to embrace
that 'change in music' that warp-style artists have gained a
reputation for.


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-14 16:26 [#01565508]
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i think there's more to warp than just the style they went
into.
see it as a phase the label is currently going through,but i
guess a lot of you know how much music a label like this
get's in mailbox.

they will surely come to the path they were years before.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-14 16:31 [#01565513]
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"I remember when Brothemstates and the Other People
Place
came out, and everybody "in the scene" was complaining
about
what warp was releasing was more of a parody of itself,
because they are idm producers that were obviously
influenced by the 'great' idm producers, and not
originators
themselves...
"

Maybe some people think that of brothomstates, but the
other people place? Plonker!



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-04-14 16:34 [#01565521]
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twats!


 

offline Key from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-14 16:37 [#01565530]
Points: 857 Status: Lurker



Isnt Other People Place just a Drexciya alias?

I do partly agree with taxidermist though. People should
lighten up. The early 1990s was a unique situation because
of breakthroughs in technology, Warp are not going to be out
finding the next Aphex because the scene has completely
fractured due to more easily available software and hardware
and cultural change like the internet and the lack of raves
and stuff.

The indie bands on Warp don't annoy me because I don't like
them and therefore do not listen to them. If Maximo Park are
bringing in lots of money for Warp then great, it will help
ensure their survival in an increasingly shaky music
industry. I'd rather Warp be considered slightly less cool
than being bankrupt.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-04-14 16:38 [#01565531]
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That was the big discussion... the albums were both released
at around the same time, and people were like "whats this? a
clone and a detroit techno album released at the same
time!!! Warp is losing its touch!!"


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-14 16:45 [#01565541]
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You obviously failed to get my point. Maybe i didn't explain
myself properly enough.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-14 16:47 [#01565548]
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I don't know what fucking clowns were saying that, but both
of those albums are very good. If you can't appreciate
either of them then ok, they're not to your taste, whatever,
but they're both class albums. Anyone who aligns themselves
with a scene and moans about a record label selling out is

15 years old and
A twat



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 17:06 [#01565586]
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"They are clearly marketing at the college, post college

crowd and i would put that as 19-32.

You can tell this by simply observing the enviroment around

you."


I'm sorry, I certainly don't see this when I observe the
environment around me. I think a lot of that is your own
assumption.

like I said, if they really were trying to make money they
would produce more of the same that they have produced the
last 15 years.

"But in the end what you have here is people that support

Warp that will talk down using inferences (and other dance
abouts) the users that question the direction of warp."


this is because they want people to take their own
responsibility and say the label. if there is any group that
use inference it is this group that is trying to talk down
Warp!

you don't like what they're doing and therefore you infer
that they are busy with some kind of marketingplan.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 17:07 [#01565590]
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"this is because they want people to take their own
responsibility and say the label."
should read:

this is because they want people to take their own
responsibility and not say it is the label's responsibility.


 

offline k_maty on 2005-04-14 17:51 [#01565624]
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You guys are just reading too deep into it. It was all
about the bitches.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 18:18 [#01565645]
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deep, deep bitches.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-14 22:50 [#01565814]
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Meh sorta kinda.

I really dont care but i have no problem voicing my opinion
that i feel a certain way abut a label.

I need to stop taking part in serious threads. Its bad form.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-04-15 02:00 [#01565851]
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Warp have actually always done "pop" and "indie" - it's just
that most of you don't realise it.

Warp released some Pulp stuff through an imprint label, so
if you hate 90s Britpop (and shame on you if you do), Warp
can be at least partly blamed for it.

And even if you don't especially like Maximo Park, surely
it's better to have a band like them in the charts than
absolute dross like Robbie cunting Williams and Britney
fucking Spears?

I think Warp are doing plenty of good things, and we just
have to accept that techno is not that popular at the moment
- Warp have to make their money from somewhere.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-15 02:25 [#01565856]
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Are Maximo Park in the charts?

To be honest, I'm not against branching out and all of that,
but I really think Warp should stick to electronic music and
if they want to release indie and other stuff it should be
on a sub label. I think a (relatively, compared to other
electronic labels) large company like Warp released
left-field electronic music like Squarepusher/Ae/BoC etc. is
a wonderful situation.
Sure, Warp could go more mainstream or branch out, and there
are very small labels that could cater for IDM artists, but
I'd hate to see that happen really. I don't want Warp
diluted, and I think it's healthy to have a fairly large
company hosting such experimental music.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-15 02:25 [#01565857]
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*releasing


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-04-15 02:44 [#01565867]
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i think maximo park got to no. 20 in the charts recently.


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:16 [#01565952]
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Hmmm, maybe I'll tell you one day many moons from now, after
you've earnt my trust and performed several initiation
rights ;-)


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:17 [#01565953]
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LOL, that made me laugh a lot...ta...


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:19 [#01565954]
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In matters of opinion there never is right and wrong...


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-04-15 05:29 [#01565968]
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this converse may indeed prove more significant than any of
us know.

initiation rights? i hve more points?


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:29 [#01565969]
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Ooh I hope so...I'd feel more comfortable telling you if I
knew you better...why don't you tell me some things about
yourself :-)


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-04-15 05:33 [#01565974]
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its the smeldeys melody thing, i bet


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-04-15 05:34 [#01565976]
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Har bleedin har...I'm not telling YOU! :-D


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2005-04-15 05:38 [#01565980]
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when and if, aphex twin has left warp, autechre, boards of
canada, squarepusher, richard devine, and anybody else that
has talent on the record and makes electronic music are done
with their contract with warp, it'll in fact suck balls. i
really dislike the new acts warp signs now, its a joke.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-04-15 10:43 [#01566225]
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Its bad form

Hahaha


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-04-15 10:44 [#01566226]
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:p

:D!!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-04-15 10:45 [#01566227]
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I have to say I don't think the quality of the new acts
signing to Warp is especially high but when did that everr
stop a label frrom doing well.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-04-15 19:39 [#01566858]
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I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing those albums, I
think their great. But I am just saying that people have
always been saying warp is loosing its touch, and I
dissagree. I think that they aren't taking any real chances
anymore... but they act as a good figurehead for the more
influential aspect of pop experimentalism.


 


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