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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-02 10:45 [#01321587]
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They're good. It's art. I like art. Art's good. Good is good.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-02 10:46 [#01321589]
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I've heard this "good is good" theory before.
interesting idea.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-02 10:52 [#01321597]
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good=ae=good
how do you like this?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-02 10:54 [#01321603]
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It involves not whining about good music which is clearly good. Think you're ready for it?
If so, good.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-09-02 11:02 [#01321615]
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lee - the % are just for fun, dont take them seriously as its obviously impossible to measure such an abstract process accurately.
I agree, AE is 100% (% for lee only) artists, no matter what they do. And I like them for that alone, especially when compared to all the fucking trash on tv/radio. But I really see them more as audio atmosphere engineers when it comes to releases like Confield, which btw, most of the songs on that album start out great, but then trickle into this patternless mess while reusing the same sounds over and over with no way to follow along, and this is somehow supposed to keep me interested, but it doesn't. Its almost like they ran out of ideas, and since they dont really understand music theory (I believe they have admitted it too in an interview I read), the song really doesn't go anywhere despite the fact that the first 3 minutes of it were amazing.
yeah.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-02 11:14 [#01321631]
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unless you are totally alien to music, some music can evoke the same emotion from the listener. now i see your point and music is subjective, and is always up to the listener, but their are certain scales and sounds that can evoke the same emotion from an audience, say at an opera or something. the composer will put a piece in at certain time, to evoke an emotion.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-02 11:18 [#01321633]
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if say, someone would cut you up, you'd probably not be too pleased, while qrter in the same situation could actually enjoy it.
(it's got nothing to do with topic, i just thought you'd be interested to know).
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-02 11:20 [#01321638]
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depends on the situation i guess :)
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uviol
from United States on 2004-09-02 12:55 [#01321761]
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You completely misinterpreted what I was saying.
My entire point was that the terms 'music, noise, whatever' are what is bogging us down. I *disagree* with weatheredstoner's point about the songs on Confield becoming a mess, etc.. but I am defending his engineering ratios for the sole reason that they are useful in helping us talk in understandable terms about the recognizable elements in the music. I am not arguing what is and isn't music.. that gets us nowhere.
You kind of put words in my mouth. Not only did I NOT say that Autechre was 'non-music,' Autechre are indeed my favorite in the entire genre. I have long been an advocate that Ae and IDM in general are equally legitimate forms of musical and artistic expression. I am not in the '1800's' as you put it, my entire point was that Autechre are problematic to people because they do not have the strict beat/melody rift that most pop music or even techno has. As a result, they are a bit of an anomaly in many music circles because people do not know how to talk about it. You may be in the next millenium of music theory or whatever but most casual listeners are not and find this music something significant to tackle.
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2004-09-02 14:23 [#01321856]
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AFX is good. But his music is nothing on Ae. Nothing at all.
AFX pales, sharply, in comparison.
But that is just an opinion, fact.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-02 14:27 [#01321866]
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<3
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-09-02 14:51 [#01321913]
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Ae Ae Ae Ae eA eA Autechre
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-02 16:44 [#01322065]
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i wouldnt say pales, but that is just my opinion, see whats so great about the internet you can give your opinion and i can give mine, and we are all happy :(
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-02 16:45 [#01322068]
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ae - 10 afx - 9.5
see only about 0.5 off :|)
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-02 17:43 [#01322115]
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ae = aphex = 10
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