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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 10:04 [#01116160]
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this movie was fuckin great!!
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 08:01 [#01264402]
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in my honest opinion i think its the most important movie in the last decade
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:04 [#01264408]
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you gotta be kidding me.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 08:07 [#01264415]
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im deadly serious why?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:09 [#01264416]
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well, it was a good film, but seriously there's been many better ones.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 08:11 [#01264419]
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there is no such thing as the best film thats why i didnt use the word good and better but important
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-07-03 08:11 [#01264420]
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Has anyone seen "I stand Alone"?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:13 [#01264422]
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i have...it was good.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:13 [#01264424]
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i see, what makes it so important then? :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 08:16 [#01264429]
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because it kills all the postulates of filmmaking and building a new ones, therefore moving film in a totally new direction, faraway from art as its ever been
uh, dont know if i would get this tho
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-07-03 08:18 [#01264431]
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Its important for its unflinching graphic violance without resorting to mondo-realism footage, in saying that, I Stand Alone is a better film
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:19 [#01264433]
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i see, i guess you're right there, but i wouldn't call it the most important in last decade :)
you don't know if you would get what?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:19 [#01264436]
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coz it's even more violent?
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 08:23 [#01264440]
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my mental drift :)
name some more important that actually changed something radically, or added something big
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:26 [#01264444]
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ok, this could be hard, but i'll see if i can come up with something :)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 08:41 [#01264451]
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Oh rape.....sounds intresting hmmmm.....rape
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 08:52 [#01264459]
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damn, it's hard to come up with something...i'd say peuple migrateur, eureka, dolls...i don't know
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 09:53 [#01264547]
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i saw just dolls, and thought it was shit compared to other takeshis movies
what r the other 2
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 09:55 [#01264553]
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eureka
peuple migrateur
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:00 [#01264558]
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uh man i dont wanna be a smartass, but how can a movie about bird migrations be important ?: )
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:00 [#01264559]
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have you seen it?
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:01 [#01264561]
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no is there a social statement behind it ? :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:02 [#01264562]
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check
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:05 [#01264566]
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as for the social statement...just about the same one as in irreversible :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:10 [#01264576]
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yea it looks nice, like microcosmos
but irreversible is actually portraing real life, in the most realistic way ive ever seen, its just more then a movie
and birds... yea, theyre kul i wanted to be a bird when i was a kid
comeon, be serious :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:13 [#01264578]
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well, i am being serious...it gives you a lot to think about, perhaps you should see it. i watched a documentary on how the film was made btw, and there were no tricks, except for the trained birds...
you know, i feel sorry for helpless animals just as much as i feel sorry for people...im just like that, see.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:17 [#01264586]
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i think they should feel sorry for us after all, theyre flying, and dont give a shit about us, notwinged ones
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-03 10:22 [#01264593]
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Yes memento had that kind of backwards structure. The only difference is that it wasn't anticlimactic. The only new thing that irreversible introduced was the camera work in the initial scene and the excellent display of graphic violence with the fire extinguisher.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:22 [#01264594]
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heh, you should see the film and get the idea...the way we poluted the earth isn't exactly good for the birds/nature in general. ahh
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-03 10:23 [#01264595]
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Is there a dvd of seul contre tous?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:24 [#01264597]
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im sure there is...i only have it on divx though :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:24 [#01264598]
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i think irreversible wd still be important enough even without the first 10 minutes and the violence scenes
there r other things about the film that really matter
like the overall documentaryness in it
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:26 [#01264600]
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that way of "documentaryness" you can spot in amores peros...ahh, we will never agree on this one :)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-03 10:28 [#01264601]
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yes
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:30 [#01264605]
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i dont wanna play anymore! u r not my friend!
bleee
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-03 10:31 [#01264606]
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im sorry. yes, irreversible is the most important film in the last decade. it's pretty obvious now...
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:33 [#01264613]
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get out of my sand!
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-03 10:37 [#01264621]
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I wouldn't call total lack of subtlety and realism... Some critics do but it makes a film boring for me. And anyway pseudo-"documentaryness" is hardly original in films. See "la haine" for example. My posts have to do with what you said about the film being the most important film of late.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-03 10:40 [#01264624]
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someone delete that and in the first sentence!!!!
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 10:41 [#01264626]
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u too! u r both naughty boys
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-12 14:35 [#01496645]
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i think i kind of missed the boat with this one :) I've just ordered the dvd, best be good!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-12 16:46 [#01496683]
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uh
oh
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OK
on 2005-02-12 19:01 [#01496823]
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I hated this movie I felt it had nothing.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-02-12 19:38 [#01496840]
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I loved this movie, in an uneasy kind of way. Everything about it is so meticulous and fitting. It makes you feel 'wrong' right from the start, and steadily goes from bad to worse, right up untill the rape, and then it becomes gorgeous.
Just a note, it wasn't actually done in one shot per scene. They shot it in tiny sections, but cropped and spliced seamlessly. In addition to being powerfull and brilliant, it was technically amazing.
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