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offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-09 06:18 [#02129821]
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Is he really that bad?



 

offline staz on 2007-10-09 06:20 [#02129824]
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i enjoy some tycho stuff. his artwork is good too.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-09 06:23 [#02129828]
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I think it was the shameless ripping-of of BoC's sound and
imagery and then lying about it that caused people to hate
him and rip the piss, not the actual music itself (which is
amongst the better BoC clones).


 

offline bingob on 2007-10-09 06:25 [#02129829]
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He is even worse


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-09 06:28 [#02129832]
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I like his artwork and wouldn't scream get this shit
off if someone was playing it.

I do love the mojority of Mercks output though.


 

offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2007-10-09 06:34 [#02129834]
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I enjoy his music, how can any boc-fan NOT enjoy it?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-09 06:34 [#02129835]
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His artwork is really good. He's doubtless a very talented
(if slightly derivative) bloke.


 

offline staz on 2007-10-09 06:34 [#02129836]
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np: Ice Cube - A Gangsta's Fairytale


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2007-10-09 08:30 [#02129853]
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the boomkat review is, i think, unfair and not exactly
accurate. it's true, boards of canada had a strong
influence on a lot of electronic artists, including tycho.
but having heard tycho's album myself, as well as other
tracks he's made, the boc influence is just a small (though
unambiguous) part. as much as i like boards of canada,
their influence is overstated and exaggerated. in addition,
tycho's album incorporates a lot of elements that are
distinctly different from boc. the "boc ripoff" label is
lazy shorthand for critics who make up their minds after
reading the titles of the tracks (a few of which do seem to
imitate boc).

tycho has a knack for composition, arrangement and sound
design and he makes some killer tunes. where he borrows
from others, he brings enough to the table himself to pull
it off.

why'd boomkat choose to single out the tycho album (and a
couple other records)? my guess is that they want you to
think they are being objective in their otherwise
consistently glowing "reviews" of the product they sell.

not everyone's going to like the record, but i think some
people will be surprised that the album is as strong as it
is.



 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-10-09 11:23 [#02129951]
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I think the Boomkat review is entirely accurate and you've
either been listening to something you've mistaken for Tycho
or you've never listened to Boards of Canada, or both.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-10-09 11:51 [#02129962]
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just bought 3 of his prints, he is way better at making gfx
then music.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2007-10-09 12:10 [#02129987]
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yeah, and who's going to believe a fucking lurker?


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-10-09 12:18 [#02129993]
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i believe him. i havent heard the album, yet i agree with
the review 100%.

the album names alone are so cringeworthy i wouldnt touch
this crap with a ten foot pole.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-10-09 12:26 [#02129997]
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pycho > tycho anyway


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-09 12:37 [#02130000]
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hmm.. i thought the first sample sounded fairly interesting,
but then the second sample starts out with a lead sound that
is almost exactly the same as the one in the sample prior. I
can't really comment as I haven't heard the full album (I'm
waiting in line to download this on soulseek), but as of now
I'm on the fence. I have to say, the BoC overtones are
difficult to ignore, especially considering some of the
track titles and sounds. There are plenty of great artists
who are derivative of another style, but I do get annoyed
when all of an artists tracks sound the same. Hopefully the
album is diverse enough to hold my attention.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-10-09 12:52 [#02130019]
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exactly. those prints are brilliant!


 

offline bingob on 2007-10-09 12:56 [#02130031]
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It's no wonder there is war and Bush and BinLaden when we
can't all agree that Tycho equals pile of shit or as we say
in Spain "Tycho esta uno cacca"


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2007-10-09 13:32 [#02130055]
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i don't think reviewing an album based on song titles or
short clips is valid. my opinion is based on hearing the
whole album, and a non-album comp track. i own all of boc's
releases. in the end i don't care what anyone likes or
doesn't like, but boc's mythical status is shallow and
phony, and given how many other artists have been accused of
the old boc-ripoff claims (casino vs japan, freescha, anyone
and everyone using a wobbly rhodes or steady hip hop beat)
i'm going to wait and hear the album before i make up my
mind. i've heard the whole tycho album, and it's pretty
damn good.

did anyone notice the lame imitation-boc titles that boc
themselves gave the tracks on their last album? did anyone
else notice that the music is half-baked and uninventive?
did anyone notice that they either recycle their own ideas
ad nauseum, or borrow ideas from recent trends (like the
sudden emergence of poorly played guitars)? no matter how
much you liked any of their other records, if you take away
the brand name you lose most of the lustre.

whatever you do, base your reviews on the records, not the
anti-hype or the song titles or the fucking clips. some of
you are definitely going to like the tycho record, even if
you don't want to admit it in public...


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-10-09 13:35 [#02130057]
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tycho is something i'd feel dirty and lame listening to.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-09 14:00 [#02130085]
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First off, I wasn't reviewing it. I'm just saying that based
on the samples alone, it doesn't sound particularly
original, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm still
planning on giving the full album a proper listen.

As for BoC's recent efforts, I'm not really a fan. Music Has
the Right to Children and Geogaddi are where BoC is at, as
far as I'm concerned. However, you can't exactly disapprove
of BoC having BoC-sounding titles the way you can disapprove
of a different artist who sounds fairly similar of doing the
same. Even if BoC are derivative of themselves, it's still
derivation based on a formula they created, which is where I
think many people make the distinction when they write-off
Tycho. Did that make any sense?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-09 14:01 [#02130090]
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I've heard the album but like Ceri said the shameless
ripping of BoC's sound and imagery is off-putting.

I think the least he could have done is go for a different
'look' if he's going for that 'sound'.


 

offline OK on 2007-10-09 16:44 [#02130254]
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imo only a couple of his tracks sound boc-ish the rest
don't. it's more like lounge, not bad but not great.


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-10-09 17:01 [#02130257]
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i'd rather listen to elecktroids like da sheffield's
sportin.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-10 01:38 [#02130421]
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Fo Sho!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2007-10-12 11:49 [#02131469]
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zephyr, sorry to imply that you were reviewing based on the
samples, i know you did say you would reserve judgement
until you heard the album.

i appreciate your perspective. when someone creates a sound
thats fresh, you want them to be credited. when someone
apes their sound with little creative input, it seems a bit
unfair. obviously there has been no shortage of people
aping boc through the years, some good and some bad. i
wasn't sold on tycho when i heard samples of his stuff a
couple years before the album was rereleased on merck. it
was a compilation track "dream as memory" that changed my
mind (and part of this track is a very boc keyboard melody
in an otherwise very un-boc track). so i checked the album,
and was surprised that he brought a lot more to the record
than the obvious boc influence.

i've heard so many substanceless accusations of bands
ripping off other bands through the years. everyone seems
to love slowdive these days, but years ago they were slammed
as my bloody valentine ripoffs. his name is alive were
accused of ripping off the cocteau twins. aphex twin was
accused of ripping off brian eno (which he was guilty of,
with excellent results).

sorry to beat a dead horse everyone...



 

offline PORICK from fucking IRELAND on 2007-10-12 11:55 [#02131474]
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you do agree that he's shit though, yeah?

ok then.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-12 12:00 [#02131477]
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No, you aren't beating a dead horse. In fact, I appreciate
that you took the time to explain in detail how you feel. I
was fairly sure that you weren't directing that post at me
100% but I spoke up so that hopefully you wouldn't have the
wrong idea about me. I'm certainly not one to judge a book
by its cover. Now, if I could just get the album to download
on soulseek so I could try it out, that'd be ace. :)


 

offline bingob on 2007-10-12 12:04 [#02131478]
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I downloaded that album of his (one more time) and I even
listened to it, and it was like it told me it was shit. With
its own words. like


 

offline bingob on 2007-10-12 12:05 [#02131479]
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Come on. Beat the meat. Beat it (horse)


 


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