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Maurice Ravel: "Daphnis et Chloé"
 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 17:55 [#02081206]
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It's heaven. Go and get it, and listen from beginning to
end.


 

offline big from lsg on 2007-05-09 18:36 [#02081230]
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he's really Brian Tregaskin


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 18:52 [#02081234]
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He's amazing in general, Une Barque Sur L'Ocean might be my
favorite piano piece ever.


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-05-09 18:53 [#02081237]
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Good for you, sensitive boy.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 19:00 [#02081244]
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Sup, Dan?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:03 [#02081246]
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You just crossed the line. Pissing off the notoriously
ruthless Ophecks, even a little bit... even looking at him
the wrong way, could very well earn you (and probably many
others as collateral damage) a B7 bloodbath of unimaginable
gore.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:07 [#02081248]
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Oh shit! "Sup, Dan?" is his war cry! He is very
pissed. You know how sensitive he is about being called
sensitive, which is a paradox because he's sensitive about
not wanting to be called sensitive. He can't help that he
has two pairs of every sensory organ. He even carries around
a spare heap of skin and sometimes whips it at people just
to see what they feel like.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 19:15 [#02081254]
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I'm completely devoid of ruth, I'm one crazy NIGGER.
Yeah, you read that right. You think I give a shit? I'll say
anything.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:29 [#02081262]
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Just calm down Ophecks... we understand that you are
a being of pure rage and if you need to release it, we would
be grateful if you can just do it in a solid beam of fury on
dog belch alone and spare the rest of us. Please don't start
another world war like you did last time.

Speaking of which does anybody know when WWIII is going to
be released? One and two were great but they're getting old
and I really need some new material.


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-05-09 19:30 [#02081264]
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Sup Jas?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-09 19:38 [#02081272]
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MC LuRve Area I: "Da Phist Hotel, N.C."


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-10 10:18 [#02081487]
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Bullshit.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-10 10:37 [#02081506]
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Check out Tomita's version.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-15 18:49 [#02084280]
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Listening to it now, having downloaded it.


 

offline It_is_a_beaver_ from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 19:19 [#02084283]
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I listened to this a long time ago and thought it was
boring. I don't think much of Ravel.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-15 20:18 [#02084298]
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When I first heard it I thought it was dreadfully boring,
but then I listened to it again recently and realised its
awesomeness. Some pieces of music seem to behave like that
more than others.


 

offline It_is_a_beaver_ from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 20:54 [#02084313]
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I don't mean to seem like I am better than others, but this
music is very unsophisticated, which is where the bordom
comes from.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-15 20:59 [#02084315]
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Well, out of interest, what would you consider
sophisticated? I thought the orchestration of this piece in
particular was pretty stunning. I don't particularly like
the ending section, but apart from that it's a beautiful
work.


 

offline It_is_a_beaver_ from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 21:32 [#02084329]
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For me, it is emotionally empty and very awkward
musicianship wise. Although I am very young, I have always
listend to classical music and have formed somewhat stubborn
opinions about this genre in general.

I cannot stand that horn in the second movement. It's very
clumsy, as the whole piece is to me. I'm not sure if this
makes sense, but it's to tribal for my ears. It's sort of
icky.

But this is no way a judgement of those who like it like
yourself.

BACH = sophistication.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-16 10:52 [#02084528]
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Bach = Boring + Samey + Too technical

There's no emotion in Bach's music, I guess this is the
Baroque standard but I can find a lot more emotion in
Vivaldi's, who was also a Baroque composer.

^BTW if that's wrong (which it might be) my whole music GCSE
education has proven itself pointless.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:04 [#02084536]
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That is the biggest load of shit I've ever read concerning
Bach. Looks like your amazing GCSE is worthless.


 

offline blrr from the block on 2007-05-16 11:10 [#02084539]
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Vivaldi is indeed baroque. However, it is my opinion that
Vivaldi is far more the boring, samey, typically baroque
composer than Bach ever was. Though I am not a huge Bach fan
I do find that getting into his music comes with time. Try
listening to some of Glenn Gould's piano interpretations;
they are a bit outlandish but they worked for me.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:15 [#02084541]
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Or better yet, listen to Rosalyn Tureck's performance of the
Well-Tempered Clavier... beautiful stuff.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-16 11:47 [#02084561]
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Not a big Bach fan but his best organ work has as much
feeling as anything I've heard, at least from that era, and
a lot the best pieces aren't overly technical.

But I do have a bias against stuff like the Brandenburg
Concertos and Handel's Water Music, because of traumatic
call center exposure to them.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:53 [#02084568]
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To be fair, call centres only really use 2 bars from one of
the Brandenburg Concerti. I recommend you get them
regardless.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-16 12:16 [#02084586]
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Mine seriously used 2 or 3 movements from each, among other
things. I've heard them in their entirety, and while it
sometimes feels like I'm having a flashback to the 'Nam, I
don't really think they're my kind of music anyway, a lot of
Bach's work just doesn't move me. And some of it blows me
away, mostly the religious stuff... can't say he's without
emotion or whatever.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 00:21 [#02084725]
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When I listen to the Brandenburgs, i just hear exactly the
same thing over and fucking over.

Alright, he's made a few masterpieces, but I find a lot of
his work to be the same.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-17 05:47 [#02084786]
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Well to be honest, the Brandenburgs aren't my favourite, I
was just replying to Ophecks about them.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 06:03 [#02084791]
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Perhaps we have a difference in taste. I've always preferred
romantic and 20th century composers, as well as medieval
church music; while I can appreciate the complexities of
baroque and classical music, in general they don't do much
for me (apart from some of Bach's compositions and a few
religious works.)

I don't understand how you can find that piece "emotionally
empty", personally! It's like the floodgates have been
opened; it's an outpour of emotion. It's a bit anywhere and
everywhere, but that's what I'm after sometimes. I like it
when music goes off on tangents and indulges in a bit of
fantasy.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-17 06:26 [#02084799]
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Surely you like Mozart, Haydn, and Handel?


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 06:54 [#02084807]
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I do-and the "Nelson Mass" and the "Requiem" are two of my
favorite pieces of all time-but in general I prefer to
listen to later composers....Debussy, Tchaikovsky, Sibelius,
Rimsky Korsakov, Messiaen, Bela Bartok, Dvorak, Stravinsky,
Vaughan Williams, Shostakovich, etc...


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2007-05-17 06:57 [#02084811]
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Emotions emotions emotions.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2007-05-17 10:15 [#02084853]
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Ravel seems to have an element of the unexpected in his
music, whereas some of the older classical composer's music
seems to be an exercise of scales or something... too cut
and dry, predictable and un-memorable.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 12:24 [#02084899]
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Yeah, I guess they were written as background music for
pretty much the same purposes and places, so they should be
the same.


 


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