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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:27 [#02077874]
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NSF100 Payments start in two weeks.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-30 23:31 [#02077875]
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do you have an income?
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:33 [#02077876]
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Yes,...no wait I wasted that running away to LA on diapers and ice cream.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-30 23:35 [#02077877]
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income
the financial gain (earned or unearned) accruing over a given period of time
having a few hundred bucks saved up is not an income. unless you mean wasted as in you lost your job as a result or something.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:36 [#02077878]
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For the time (part time high school job) it was an income, meager though. I have 3,000 saved now though.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-04-30 23:52 [#02077879]
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It's $5000?
How long do you have to pay it off?
How much are you paying upfront?
Have you ridden before?
Just wait till Ceri JC sees this thread!
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-04-30 23:53 [#02077880]
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oh yeah, what colour?
will you get a full set of leathers?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-05-01 00:17 [#02077884]
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when i choose colors it only lets me choose white
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 02:46 [#02077894]
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That's because it's a track bike, it's basically just undercoated so you can paint your race team's colours on it.
Swift_Jams, have you factored in the cost of leathers/a helmet? Not a very interesting compared to a bike I admit, but unfortunately they're one of the costs of biking. If you're going to be doing track days (or God forbid, actually racing) almost all tracks I can think of insist on you wearing two piece leathers (leather, not textiles), boots, gloves and a recognised/approved helmet, as a minimum. I know you're in America, where Joe Rocket is a popular choice, but can I strongly advise against using them? Great customer service, terrible quality leathers. If you're looking to get a set cheaply, I would strongly recommend RSX.
I imagine you'd be looking at just doing track days first (even if this is working up to getting a racing licence), even for a bike like that, tyres will be pricey (and you'll get through them quite quickly). Check the cost of it first- it'd be a real shame to have a track bike then not be able to use it more than once or twice a year.
If you're thinking about racing, I'd honestly say to forget it until you earn a bit more. Talk to a few racers about how much it costs (crashing, bike transport, servicing, replacing parts, licence, entry fees, etc.) before diving in at the deep end.
Similarly, regardless of the path you're looking to take, I'd advise against a brand new bike as a first track day bike? You will put the thing on its side at some point as you're learning. Personally I'd buy something a bit more powerful (Aprilia RS125 or 250), but secondhand, so you have some money left over for repairs/spares and also if you decide you don't like it/can't afford it, you've not lost so much through depreciation.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-05-01 03:55 [#02077902]
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99cc
so it's one of those mopeds made to look "cool" yeah? congs swiftjams.
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nacmat
on 2007-05-01 04:09 [#02077904]
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I want to buy two bicycles though
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nacmat
on 2007-05-01 04:10 [#02077905]
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bycicles*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-01 04:17 [#02077907]
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what do you need a motorbike for?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:26 [#02077913]
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Considering that it's not a road-legal bike and is designed to be used on a racetrack, I would imagine he wants to ride purely for fun on racetracks. Given the size of the bike, I would imagine he doesn't have a AMA race licence, so I expect he'll be restricted to using it on track days (Around £200 a time), or using it illegally (and hence uninsured) on quiet roads.
Personally, I think doing track days on such a low powered bike is a bad idea. It's pretty unnerving to have someone fly by you on a more powerful bike at 30mph faster than you, on this, some people will be coming past at 80-100mph faster than you on the straights at larger circuits.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-01 04:29 [#02077916]
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So it's not even usable for practical transportation?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:39 [#02077919]
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Nope. It's for race track use only. I don't know the USA regulations regarding using race bikes on the road, but in the UK, you could at least insure it for daytime use only if you fitted a horn to it. Whilst I might chance a bike without mirrors on the road, I don't think I'd be up for riding one without indicators, never mind without a brake light.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:42 [#02077921]
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Oh yes, I should add (in case Swiftjams has overlooked it) that even buying this brand new, it won't have a warranty. It's standard that race machines come without warranties as they're invariably crashed and ridden flat out for hours at a time. Admittedly, as it's a honda 4 stroke, the engine is unlikely to go pop anytime soon, but it's worth being aware of.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-05-02 08:00 [#02078393]
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Well. I plan on just taking it down to the track or out to my grandparents land and race around and just gun it all I want. It's for leisure, the idea of employing a motorcycle for everyday use isn't practical here. Weather is NEVER good for more than 2 days. I'd have to have seperate, back-up transportation if I wanted to buy something I was going to use regularly. This will just give me something fun to do.
I didn't think about those extra costs, JC. I'll check out some other's that are totally built, but regardless, I need to start forking over money for this in two weeks. I'm only 18 so I can't take out this loan alone. My parents are co-signing, so I'll need to sign a portion of my paystubs over to them.
It will be good fun once I've earned it though. My Uncle had a bike for a while and I took a spin on it once or twice. It's much better than mediocre sex.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-02 09:34 [#02078426]
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Ah, I'd overlooked the fact that you might have access to large bits of land to play with this on. In that case you should have a blast. Might be advisable to "run it in" on your folks' land- people here usually run track bikes in by illegally riding them on the road for a few hundred miles if they're the sort of bikes you can't ride on the road. Running in on a track is very expensive. As to getting it to the track, a bike that size will fit on the back of even a fairly small pickup (be sure to put rags/an old duvet between the bike and the tie-downs to avoid scuffing the paint). You could even (if you have access to an SUV or van) get away with a lightweigth bike rack as it's under 400 pounds. Have a look at sargeindustries.com for details of a good and reasonably priced one. Failing that, if you live near the track you could just chance it and ride there illegally, but of course, things get nasty if you have an accident (even if it's not your fault) and you're not insured.
Are you taking delivery of it ready assembled and ready to ride, or are you getting it out of the crate? If the latter, I'd recommend using natural (mineral) oil when you fill it up for running in.
If you've got any questions about the bike or kit, feel free to send me an email.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-02 09:36 [#02078427]
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USE YOUR MONEY TO TRAVEL AWAY FROM UNITED STATES - NOT TO DRIVE AROUND IN IT.
get your priorities straight!
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