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offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:27 [#02077874]
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NSF100
Payments start in two weeks.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-30 23:31 [#02077875]
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do you have an income?


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:33 [#02077876]
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Yes,...no wait I wasted that running away to LA on diapers
and ice cream.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-30 23:35 [#02077877]
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income

the financial gain (earned or unearned) accruing over a
given period of time

having a few hundred bucks saved up is not an income.
unless you mean wasted as in you lost your job as a result
or something.


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-04-30 23:36 [#02077878]
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For the time (part time high school job) it was an income,
meager though. I have 3,000 saved now though.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2007-04-30 23:52 [#02077879]
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It's $5000?

How long do you have to pay it off?

How much are you paying upfront?

Have you ridden before?

Just wait till Ceri JC sees this thread!


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2007-04-30 23:53 [#02077880]
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oh yeah, what colour?

will you get a full set of leathers?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-05-01 00:17 [#02077884]
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when i choose colors it only lets me choose white


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 02:46 [#02077894]
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That's because it's a track bike, it's basically just
undercoated so you can paint your race team's colours on
it.

Swift_Jams, have you factored in the cost of leathers/a
helmet? Not a very interesting compared to a bike I admit,
but unfortunately they're one of the costs of biking. If
you're going to be doing track days (or God forbid, actually
racing) almost all tracks I can think of insist on you
wearing two piece leathers (leather, not textiles), boots,
gloves and a recognised/approved helmet, as a minimum. I
know you're in America, where Joe Rocket is a popular
choice, but can I strongly advise against using them? Great
customer service, terrible quality leathers. If you're
looking to get a set cheaply, I would strongly recommend
RSX.

I imagine you'd be looking at just doing track days first
(even if this is working up to getting a racing licence),
even for a bike like that, tyres will be pricey (and you'll
get through them quite quickly). Check the cost of it first-
it'd be a real shame to have a track bike then not be able
to use it more than once or twice a year.

If you're thinking about racing, I'd honestly say to forget
it until you earn a bit more. Talk to a few racers about how
much it costs (crashing, bike transport, servicing,
replacing parts, licence, entry fees, etc.) before diving in
at the deep end.

Similarly, regardless of the path you're looking to take,
I'd advise against a brand new bike as a first track day
bike? You will put the thing on its side at some
point as you're learning. Personally I'd buy something a bit
more powerful (Aprilia RS125 or 250), but secondhand, so you
have some money left over for repairs/spares and also if you
decide you don't like it/can't afford it, you've not lost so
much through depreciation.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-05-01 03:55 [#02077902]
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99cc

so it's one of those mopeds made to look "cool" yeah? congs
swiftjams.


 

offline nacmat on 2007-05-01 04:09 [#02077904]
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I want to buy two bicycles though


 

offline nacmat on 2007-05-01 04:10 [#02077905]
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bycicles*


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-01 04:17 [#02077907]
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what do you need a motorbike for?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:26 [#02077913]
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Considering that it's not a road-legal bike and is designed
to be used on a racetrack, I would imagine he wants to ride
purely for fun on racetracks. Given the size of the bike, I
would imagine he doesn't have a AMA race licence, so I
expect he'll be restricted to using it on track days (Around
£200 a time), or using it illegally (and hence uninsured)
on quiet roads.

Personally, I think doing track days on such a low powered
bike is a bad idea. It's pretty unnerving to have someone
fly by you on a more powerful bike at 30mph faster than you,
on this, some people will be coming past at 80-100mph faster
than you on the straights at larger circuits.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-01 04:29 [#02077916]
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So it's not even usable for practical transportation?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:39 [#02077919]
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Nope. It's for race track use only. I don't know the USA
regulations regarding using race bikes on the road, but in
the UK, you could at least insure it for daytime use only if
you fitted a horn to it. Whilst I might chance a bike
without mirrors on the road, I don't think I'd be up for
riding one without indicators, never mind without a brake
light.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-01 04:42 [#02077921]
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Oh yes, I should add (in case Swiftjams has overlooked it)
that even buying this brand new, it won't have a warranty.
It's standard that race machines come without warranties as
they're invariably crashed and ridden flat out for hours at
a time. Admittedly, as it's a honda 4 stroke, the engine is
unlikely to go pop anytime soon, but it's worth being aware
of.


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-05-02 08:00 [#02078393]
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Well. I plan on just taking it down to the track or out to
my grandparents land and race around and just gun it all I
want. It's for leisure, the idea of employing a motorcycle
for everyday use isn't practical here. Weather is NEVER good
for more than 2 days. I'd have to have seperate, back-up
transportation if I wanted to buy something I was going to
use regularly. This will just give me something fun to do.

I didn't think about those extra costs, JC. I'll check out
some other's that are totally built, but regardless, I need
to start forking over money for this in two weeks. I'm only
18 so I can't take out this loan alone. My parents are
co-signing, so I'll need to sign a portion of my paystubs
over to them.

It will be good fun once I've earned it though. My Uncle had
a bike for a while and I took a spin on it once or twice.
It's much better than mediocre sex.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-02 09:34 [#02078426]
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Ah, I'd overlooked the fact that you might have access to
large bits of land to play with this on. In that case you
should have a blast. Might be advisable to "run it in" on
your folks' land- people here usually run track bikes in by
illegally riding them on the road for a few hundred miles if
they're the sort of bikes you can't ride on the road.
Running in on a track is very expensive. As to getting it to
the track, a bike that size will fit on the back of even a
fairly small pickup (be sure to put rags/an old duvet
between the bike and the tie-downs to avoid scuffing the
paint). You could even (if you have access to an SUV or van)
get away with a lightweigth bike rack as it's under 400
pounds. Have a look at sargeindustries.com for details of a
good and reasonably priced one. Failing that, if you live
near the track you could just chance it and ride there
illegally, but of course, things get nasty if you have an
accident (even if it's not your fault) and you're not
insured.

Are you taking delivery of it ready assembled and ready to
ride, or are you getting it out of the crate? If the latter,
I'd recommend using natural (mineral) oil when you fill it
up for running in.

If you've got any questions about the bike or kit, feel free
to send me an email.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-02 09:36 [#02078427]
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USE YOUR MONEY TO TRAVEL AWAY FROM UNITED STATES - NOT TO
DRIVE AROUND IN IT.

get your priorities straight!


 


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