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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-14 23:27 [#02072147]
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Anyone in America notice how this mentality is so prevelant? Is it this way in other countries. Fear of the individual? Whatever it may be, being normal is "In".
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-14 23:30 [#02072149]
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yeah, i think this goes for most western world..
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PNES
on 2007-04-14 23:59 [#02072152]
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It's animal nature. Some degree of conformity is necessary for a community to survive. I don't think it's changed much if that's partly why you're asking. Only now, they are watching us online.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-15 00:01 [#02072153]
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I actually couldn't say it's a mentality. I suspect I have a lot less in 'common' than the majority has with itself but I don't know what other people think about it if they think at all.
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rad smiles
on 2007-04-15 00:23 [#02072157]
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nobody can legally be a nonconformist here.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-04-15 00:54 [#02072161]
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What is a drop of rain, compared to the storm? What is a thought, compared to the mind? Our unity is full of wonder which your tiny individualism cannot even conceive.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-15 00:57 [#02072162]
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"Wow. I think we just got Goth-Served."
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-04-15 00:59 [#02072164]
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Individuality in western society is an artform. Especially for the people who have to work for their money. And the fast growing population doesn't help either. We're all rats in a cage. In the end it'll be that crowded we'll start to eat eachother. Which, in a sense we already do. So, in order to avoid being eaten you have to find a smart way to conform while still maintaining your individuality. And it's fucking hard, but the reward is definately there.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-15 01:35 [#02072168]
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I love how you have trump in your avatar. That was Trump..
Goths? They are the perfect example of a joiner
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2007-04-15 02:09 [#02072172]
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I think conformity is an even greater mentality of the East.
Japan is a prime example. About three years ago I saw a large group of Japanese tourists at the airport who literally all carted around the exact same type of suitcase, which sort of resembled RD-D2s.
I think the idea of individuality is generally more valued in the West, but that's not to say it doesn't exist in the East.
Ophecks: I take it you're a SShock 2 fanboy as well?
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-15 02:30 [#02072174]
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What can one do that makes one a non conformist? Theres a niche for everyone.
You want to have girls pee and poo all over you while you masturbate? Theres a group for you!
You want to peirce every concievable part of your face? you're a freak (even more then the poomasturbater), but there's a group for you too!
I guess the true non conformists are the loners... usually serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer. He was so non conformist that he'd strangle you and have sex with you after you died. Then he'd save your hair and fingernails.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-15 02:32 [#02072175]
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As long as the conformity is sincere and authentic, I don't have a problem with it. The problem is that it usually isn't, and even more problematic is the fact that not even nonconformity is in most cases.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-04-15 12:31 [#02072239]
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I had a bit of a rant planned out. Halfway through I realized I would sound like a wanker. Just thought I would pop in and say that 'non-conformists' are wankers.
Drunken Mastah is right. Usually non-conformists are not sincere about it. Its kind of like the whole musicians selling out when they accept money for their work. Its an OK idea when you are 14, but adults should learn to grow up.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2007-04-15 12:48 [#02072243]
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yep... people who try to be nonconformist usually just end up comforming in another way. i know some people through work who think of themselves as "part of the alternative scene"... what the hell is that. its still a type of conformity.
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thatne
from United States on 2007-04-15 13:24 [#02072257]
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conformity is a product of socialization. schools encourage creativity to extent.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-15 13:33 [#02072258]
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Jeffrey Dahmer conformed to a certain type of fetishist.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-15 13:52 [#02072262]
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Sorry, Last night I just came back from a Bar that was packed with fresh faced college kids all wearing North Face clothing.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-15 13:54 [#02072263]
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I think we all understand how it is: you're out and about and faced with an overwhelming wall of conformity (of which you're not a part), and it ignites a frustration with the continued lack of imagination and courage of 'umans.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-15 13:59 [#02072265]
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yeah, basically.
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HmND
from your mom (Israel) on 2007-04-15 14:41 [#02072283]
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That's why you manipulate others to conform to you.
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rad smiles
on 2007-04-15 18:59 [#02072341]
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i'll say it again. its illegal to be a nonconformist in this country.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-04-16 00:17 [#02072385]
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Perhaps you'll notice that this web page isn't even American. You guys should stop expecting the world to center around you.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-16 01:27 [#02072388]
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Even though he started the topic with " Anyone in America notice"
maybe you should stop being a nazi, conformist asshole.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-16 01:34 [#02072389]
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The truth of the matter is that by trying to be non-conformist, you actually become even more conformist because the conformity is playing even more heavily on your mind.
And when you make the concious descion to become "non-conformist" you also become an Elitest. You judge people based on their conformity, which was probably one of things you hate about materialist sheep conformists. You become even more material.
If you want to be a "non conformist" you'd better be like an Einstien or Galileo or something, with a good reason to not conform. It should be something that happens naturally, and should not be your primary cause.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-16 01:36 [#02072390]
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and jusst getting some piercings and dying your hair blue and refusing to wear North Face jackets or something dosent make you a non conformist, it just makes you look like a douche.
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Feld
from surrey (Canada) on 2007-04-16 04:00 [#02072412]
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the closest thing to nonconformity would be simply being yourself...so if you were to live forever youd be as nonconformist as you could be. always changing would mean you couldn't truly be pinpointed...you'd be like an elusive visitor of the times just participating in the ongoing trends as if you're 'one of them'
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-04-16 05:41 [#02072417]
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individuality could be viewed as a struggle with the self. to desire individuality is to cling to our identity, and to expect our single unit in some way to be more correct or appropriate than our peers.
wouldnt it benefit society if people could drop this notion, and consider each other in terms of equal value?
this is not conformity. this is decidedly non-conformist in the sense that it goes against all the contemporary motives of personal gain. however, the concepts of conformism or non-conformism might not even have an application if equality was at the foundation of society.
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Valor
on 2007-04-16 06:58 [#02072427]
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i enjoy tap dancing
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rad smiles
on 2007-04-16 16:04 [#02072669]
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the only effective way of doing anything is subversively.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 16:31 [#02072672]
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We're doomed to conformity the moment we're born.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-16 16:40 [#02072679]
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I agree with the 'being yourself' comment. . The most unique people I have ever met are always the ones that were either home schooled or grew up in a circus or some other such odd background.
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