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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-12 10:48 [#02071514]
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Do you believe in stuff like ghosts, magic, ESP or the like?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2007-04-12 10:52 [#02071516]
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what kind of magic? paul daniels is hardly paranormal...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-12 10:54 [#02071517]
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The "classic" story-book magic.. curses, spells, fireballs shooting from your hands, etc.
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thatne
from United States on 2007-04-12 10:59 [#02071518]
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yes/no/maybe so
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-04-12 11:18 [#02071522]
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no, not really. i believe what i see, and even then i question it.
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staz
on 2007-04-12 11:29 [#02071524]
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gay
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-04-12 11:31 [#02071525]
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i think staz is trying to tell us something.
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Anus_Presley
on 2007-04-12 11:44 [#02071526]
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I think that most 'parranorrmal' phenomenon is actually the effect of time trravelerrs. I mean that.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-04-12 11:50 [#02071533]
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although i dont have any belief in the paranormal/supernatural, i do find rebirth/reincarnation plausible.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-04-12 11:57 [#02071538]
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I can dig that.
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mimi
on 2007-04-12 12:21 [#02071547]
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not really, i wish there were ghosts though :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 12:23 [#02071549]
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There are several explanations for almost all supernatural occurrences; to quote the pet shop boys: "nothing has been proved".
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-12 12:25 [#02071551]
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I don't really believe anything of it either, I just don't have a reason to, and it's not the kind of thing I feel I need to trust others about; it's not important enough (as weird as that may sound). I'm not really sure what it would take to make me believe either.. what could you possibly experience to make you believe this type of stuff?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-12 12:26 [#02071552]
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Yeah, several explanations, and supernatural is a kind of a weird word (it'd have to be natural if it existed), but then.. do you believe the people who say they see ghosts? Those who say they communicate with ghosts?
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-04-12 12:29 [#02071553]
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Being an eye witness to the appearance of an apparition, preferably a beautiful naked woman. But this can be reduced to one having some kind psychological disorder and people calling you crazy.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 12:30 [#02071554]
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Who am I to say what is real and what isn't? Maybe some people really see psychological imprints of formerly sentient beings whilst others are crazy drivelbugs and see things projected only from their inner workings.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-04-12 13:45 [#02071569]
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I used to go ''ghost hunting'' in the cemeteries behind my house and near my cousin's house, and we definitely saw what we knew for sure at the time, 100%, were ghosts. I swear on Vincent Price's grave. It was so exciting that I've tried hard to believe in them, in the hopes that I may feel that kind of excitement again. And I refuse to say (or admit :-( ) that I don't believe in the paranormal.
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welt
on 2007-04-12 14:53 [#02071592]
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the atheist positivist empiricist aj ayer turned to considering supernatural "truths" after he had one of those near death experiences, in which you walk through a tunnel to some bright light.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-04-12 15:10 [#02071594]
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i do believe there are ghosts cause i've encountered some and i do believe in mindreading or the likes
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 15:11 [#02071595]
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Are you open to the possibility that there are other explanations for what you saw and believe?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-12 15:25 [#02071599]
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hell noaf
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-04-12 15:48 [#02071611]
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if the likes of which you are asking about can be explained, i believe it has to do with the theory of multiple dimensions and the exchange of energy between to planes of existence. besides, how we define this world is based on our limited perception through the five senses. there are plenty of things which we have only been able to prove by technology we devoloped, soley to detect this "hidden" information. ie: light energy spectrum, atoms, and the larger molecules from the galaxy. in that case, i wouldn't be so brash as to speculate that paranormal events can be entirely ruled out as an actual reality. our inability to commonly experience these activities on a regular and consistent basis doesn't allow us to make a finite conclusion on the matter, other than ideas which can't be proven.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 16:00 [#02071614]
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As Robert Anton Wilson note, Belief System shares its initials with Bull Shit.
Be careful what you believe in.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-04-12 16:05 [#02071616]
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yes, but everything paranormal related can be covered up by something really typical, like pure coïncedence or a fucky lightswitch. Actually you cannot prove anything, which is annoying.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 16:37 [#02071620]
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It depends upon how you look at it.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-04-12 16:43 [#02071626]
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Also, it depends upon how you look at it.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-12 17:27 [#02071635]
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I agree. I mean, if you're in your room, and the termperature suddenly drops and and the chair shoots across the room and a loud scratching sound bursts out of the cuboard for five minutes, all sorts of things could be put forward (apart from it being a delusion) to explain the events: Your heater broke down suddenly, and steam pissed out of a hole that caused the breakage, causing the chair to fly across the room and a drop in temperature, and the nails in the chair somehow slipped into the cuboard and rolled around in there for five minutes because....I don't know. I'm drunk. But you get what I mean. People will always "excuse" paranormal experiences as a series of natural events/coincidences by defult, simply because they are paranormal and CAN'T be true. Perhaps they're right to do that, but me and lots of people far more sane than I have seen stuff that defies belief, and some sceptic saying "you CAN'T have seen that" isn't going to sway those people. There's a possibility that there's more to our surroundings than we're currently aware of.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 17:56 [#02071647]
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While I agree that many paranormal sceptics are overly suspicious and elaborate in their explanations, it is best to truly maintain an open mind, and not immediately believe it must be some malevolent spirit external to oneself who is causing mischief.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-04-12 18:09 [#02071648]
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When I lived with my mom and sister, we had a ghost haunt us for a few days. At first I was skeptical and attributed every last strange occurence to my psychosis, but then my sister explained the same thing, then the next night, my mom. One night we all slept in the hallway, refusing to go back into our bedrooms. We felt something walking on our beds, possibly crawling on knees, then we felt hands strangling us. True Story.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-12 18:17 [#02071650]
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An apt tale for your avatar.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-12 18:25 [#02071654]
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no
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-04-12 18:28 [#02071656]
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hah!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2007-04-12 19:57 [#02071670]
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the way i see it is that to disbelieve is as stupid as to believe.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2007-04-12 21:14 [#02071675]
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No sir. I think superstitions are just a bunch of false assumptions and irrationalities. That's not to say I don't believe in a force greater than ourselves.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-04-12 21:24 [#02071676]
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*forces
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-14 05:57 [#02071915]
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paranormal
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-04-15 15:39 [#02072299]
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I don't believe in the "supernatural" per se but there could easily be something we perceive as ghostly activity that is really resonances and echoes of consciousness-vibration in an unknown medium that I like to call the absurdoplasm.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-16 07:38 [#02072445]
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There's something fucked up with his eyes. He doesn't move them or change their expression throughout the whole thing. And he only blinks 2ce in five minutes.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-16 07:47 [#02072454]
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i really dont know. and neither do anyone of you. but after experiencing drugs i believe people see whatever they want to see.. so therefore.. no, i do not 'believe'. but i really don't care so much about those things.. i mean they are exciting and all... but seriously, once you get down to the facts of the universe, supernatural suddenly becomes natural.
i hope that somewhat made sense.
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uzim
on 2007-04-16 15:26 [#02072646]
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i can't say i believe in it, but i'm not positive about the fact that it doesn't exist either... i leave room for uncertainty. and i like to fantasize about it - the positive aspects of it, mostly.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:32 [#02072655]
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You're French, why are you using American-English spelling?
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uzim
on 2007-04-16 16:32 [#02072673]
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you mean, "fantasize" instead of "fantasise"? from what i've read (and according to my dictionary as well), the -ize suffix is also accepted in british english... and it just looks better/more "natural" to me for some reason. maybe because i'm used to seeing it spelled that way.
(now i have to admit that i'm a bit careless on the internet when using english, i know i have written "color" in some posts and "colour" in others for example. feel free to correct me if i make any mistakes!)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 16:36 [#02072674]
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no.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 16:37 [#02072677]
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Fantasize is a soft-drink measurement. America just like their Zzzzzs
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-04-17 06:45 [#02072827]
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A few years back, I believed in the paranormal for a couple of seconds, when a glass-shelf in our living-room fell off its stand and made a heck-alot of noise. In the middle of the goddamn night.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-17 06:48 [#02072830]
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Haha, yeah, it's interesting how even the most sober people get kind of freaked out if they're alone in a large house at night watching some kind of ghost program.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-04-17 07:08 [#02072833]
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When I was very young I heard somewhere that if you wished for some loved one that has gone, he or she would visit you as a ghost. I remember I often considered, while in bed (when young), if I should give it a try, but the mere thought of it instantly freaked me out.
And nowadays I feel it's too much nonsense surrounding the whole subject to attract any greater attention.
To me, the notion of a round earth (obvious as that may be) or a whole universe surrounding it, or the fact that I can move my hands is a much more greater mystery, or "wonder" than any dead people walking about. ;)
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-04-17 07:12 [#02072835]
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