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I haven't seen this posted yet. Since there are a lot of UK subjects here, I was curious as to what you think about your service men and women taken hostage in Iran? What do you think should be done. |
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Shit, that was suppose to read "15 British Sailors/Marines" A question mark would be nice at the end of the last sentence, too. |
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Give them a fixed deadline to release all of them by and if they fail, bomb their country back to the stone age. In all seriousness, I'm not sure. I wouldn't want anything to happen to them because of our leaders' refusal to co-operate with Iran. Conversely, I don't want concessions to be made to Iran/them to be "traded", because it's not like they were legit prisoners in the first place and I consider it more akin to kidnapping. Cue lots of "shouldn't of been out there in the first place"/"forces personnel deserve all they get" comments by heartless leftists. |
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I feel angry and annoyed. A) They weren't tresspassing and B) Even if they had been, why wouldn't you just give them back? If only we could communicate how GPS works to that primitive nation. |
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your point for B) is stupid. |
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what i find absurd is that Iran first told our government that they captured our soldiers at location X in Iranian waters. It was only when the British government pointed out that the co-ordinates of point X were actually in Iraqi waters that Iran turned around and basically said "Oh really? Oh, we meant point Y". |
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this case reminds me of pirates and the old days around 500 years ago... |
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This situation doesn't need diplomacy or missiles, it needs someone to say "To the people in Iran in charge of orchestrating this mess. You've already admitted you weren't sure where the sailors were by changing your mind about where you found them, so that's the argument off the table straight away. But you persist, forcing them on TV to come out with statements like "We were trespassing, we're sorry, and look at Iraq, isn't it time we left? Iran's fucking brilliant, what a bunch of great guys. Poo, Britain smells. When I'm released, not that I want to be because it's so cool here, I've got a PS3 and everything, I am going to live in Tehran. Hell, I might even go Islamoid", as if your hamfisted propaganda schemes were devised by a 7 year old with ADS. You're insulting your own people's intelligence as well as the rest of the world's. Just let the whey faced sailors back, you've had your five minute tantrum in the spotlight like Kim Jong Fuck last month, I'm sure there's some other despot in a backwater restlessly awaiting for his turn. |
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so it's heartless to be against the war now? |
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send Lord Falconer over there in some derring do rescue hijinx MINISTRY OF JUSTICE UBER ALLES |
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Can you not make the distinction that feeling sorry for the poor wretches who have fallen into the hands of the enemy is quite seperate to whether or not you think we should of gone to war in the first place? They were out there and now they've been illegally taken hostage by a bunch of cretinous liars as a PR stunt. Does the fact that they're out there (even if their presence is wrong) warrant them being treated this way? Would that attitude extend to torturing them? "Well, if they didn't want to be tortured, they shouldn't of joined the army/should of refused to go to Iraq." Also bear in mind, a great many forces personnel are against the war in Iraq and never wanted to go. Unfortunately, once you're signed up, you don't have much choice in the matter. Yes, they could of refused to go out there, but what would be the outcome of that? A spell in a military prison, with a reputation for deserting your company in a time of need? I'd take my chances getting shot at by the enemy over that, personally. BTW, I nominate Dog_belch for the diplomatic service! |
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if those sailors had been microchipped at birth then the rise in pedophilia / terror / binge drinking would never have happened |
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it's a pity, the lads in tehran are complete fucking idiots for doing it, they should release them as soon as possible without incident so as to deprive the US of another reason to invade (air strikes are rumoured for the first week of April - |
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really, like, the whole chirade leaves me wondering "What the fuck are they playing at?" they want to send a bold message to the rest of the world that they can't be fucked with? Come on.. :/ |
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It makes me think of Jonothan Yeah? in Nathan Barley, and to paraphrase what he says, stupid people think it's real, which is cool, and clever people think it's so heavy handed and pathetic it must be a double-bluff, also cool. |
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I hope this situation is resolved peacefully and quickly so that the TVs on the trains can go back to showing britney spears latest drug fuelled attention seeking escapade and i can return to touching myself gently under my free copy of the metro. |
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also whoever it was from iran that was on the channel 4 news earlier had jon snow spread most erotically over his desk in exasberation. |
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I hope Iran executes them all on television, namely because they are British and not American. I hate British people. |
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I respect the British. They are kin. |
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the Ahmadinejad administration makes me really sad. they act in such a manner that perpetuates, on both sides, all of the confusing shitiness that they stand for. i can't help but feel like the Iranian people have been taken hostage. i really hope this doesn't lead to war. it seems too fucking inane for that. |
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ehm why? |
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Of course I can make the distinction, but that doesn't mean the two are totally unrelated. Of course it's crap that they got caught, but they were indeed stupid enough to join in the first place which affects my attitude towards them: maybe they'll learn something from this. |
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What has Tony Blair said/done about it so far ? |
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The Brits don't have a moral leg to stand of course, what with our illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention countless others throughout history). Unfortunately for the service people they are being used for political purposes, first by the UK, and now Iran. But luckily for them they haven't been hooded, sexually humiliated and had electric nodes attached to their fingers a la Abu Graib. |
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In the words of Menzies Campbell - "Whatever the rights and wrongs of military action, British forces in Iraq are now there with the authority of a UN security council resolution... and the Iranian government should be left in no doubt of the serious implications of their action." I agree with that 100% |
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It's all masterminded by american intelligence agencies to get the war on Iran going ahead of schedule. |
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Just because it's an UN sanctioned action? I'm pretty sure they could've done more with diplomacy. I was at a lecture by Hans Blix a week back and I got the impression he wasn't satisfied with the current political stance on diplomacy. He also suggested doing, as the AU does, including (or at least not excluding) those who "do wrong:" engaging them in diplomacy even when they aren't doing what you want them to instead of excluding them may actually accomplish something. |
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I'm pretty sure of that as well. |
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Ming the Merciless is it? When someone begins with "whatever the rights or wrongs..." they've already thrown morality out of the window and I can't work from that premise. Is that 'Meet Military Singles Today' ad at the bottom of this page serious?! Surely whatever marketing company these people employ aren't doing their job properly. I don't imagine many IDM geeks are on the lookout for military singles. Though I invite anyone to correct me. |
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How an aborted US attempt to kidnap Iranian security http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414 officials has led to the current crisis 760.ece |
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fix link |
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cheers for that |
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zey are releesing zem |
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His letter makes more sense than anything G.W. Bush has ever said. |
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Fuck the Military Singles, think of the all the lovely young war widows out there waiting for a soldier, I mean shoulder, to cry on. |
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Weren't they just released? |
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...they left with one pussy and came back with fifteen... |
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isn't that the sad thing? he's a fucking meglomaniac fascist cunt himself, but at least he can string some eloquent rhetoric together. it's really rather sad. |
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What were they have meant to have done, you fugly man-dyke? |
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...said no to starring in Iran's new hit series, "The British Armed Forces are Pussies", where they gorged themselves silly and pointed to maps smilling like retarded inbreds. That's nice, two "haves" in one sentence. You forgot some unnecessary contractions you fucking honorary Chilian rat. |
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i can't wait to see what happens in the morning... |
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They all received nice gift baskets from their recent hosts, jolly nice. I'm sure if they hold a few US soldiers, George Bush would call up Chuck Norris to sidekick Iran all the way to Outer Mongolia. |
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