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i gotta turn in an Expository Essay (In an expository essay, you describe and explain) by midnight and was wondering (hoping) i could get some info from all of you on the process of music making. maybe write just a paragraph on some aspect or particular part of your process and i could remix them (kinda like how you write songs for all the mixes we have on zilty) or maybe someone could start off with the begining and then others could reply and build onto it (kinda like the rambo thread recently) just so i have at least a draft to show for now. i can always change it before the final is due next week. |
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1) have, say, 13 tracker patterns of 96 rows each. put a random interesting sound(s) on the top of each (the interesting parts and changes of which are measured in chunks of 8 or 16 about.). make a blank 'dummy' pattern and sprinkle it in amongst the 13 (in approximate ratio of 3 with sound per 1 blank). 2) do it again only with say, 17 instead of 13 patterns, also with dummy blank sprinkled in. 3) do it again, only with say, 21 (so they're all different lengths) 4)save all as a wav file measured perfectly so they loop 5) play so these 3 waves intermesh evenly (purpose is to have a constantly different beat since these waves are out of phase with eachother, being different lengths) 6) play this whole thing in 3 octaves at once, the lower octaves being slightly louder. |
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Ask DJ Subwoof! |
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hey i'm too lazy/stupid to do my school work. i know, i'll ask a bunch of strangers on the internet. OR do your own fucking work you lazy sod |
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ha ha ha! I usually start with a drum machine (software or hardware )and write the main beat loop. I then transpose this to a sequencer and (usually manualy) add some syncopation/shuffle to it. I then tweak the sounds about so that the sounds in the kit work well together. Next I usually make the bass, then melody, then add some unique sounds. For these non-drum sounds, I usually use a preset (one of my own presets I've made earlier) that is close to the sound I want, then change it so it's unique for this track. I usually make a 4 or 8 bar loop and then extend this and make some variations on it. I then do a rough sequence using these loops. I then go in and program in extra detail like breakdowns, drops, etc. HTH |
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Fairly ok I just made. I've made lots of these because I like the intricate pseudorandom beats that take fairly little effort, and because I currrently lack the programming ability to do something complex and interesting without cheating. |
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I spin old soul records and sit waiting for the riff to come, then I sample that in the computer. I cut it and cut it, rearange in three or four tracks and reverse some hits to ocasionally get back to the full original loop. Add EQ to each channel and compression in the bus where all drum tracks go. |
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For a more serious answer, heres a shot: I make pop music, so melody is everything to me. A track starts in my head. I usually go for a walk with my dictaphone, and sing little brackets of something, a melody that i like, with some ideas for a lyric on top. Melody and lyrics go hand in hand for me. Then i go home, transcribe the melody into fruityloops, make some chords over it, then a beat, then a bassline, and now i have a chorus. From then on, i try to figure out how to structure the song, and write verses, solos, c-pieces and shit like that. Then i start fine tuning my shit, change the drums, add some interesting effects. There you have it. The viktor crayon recipe for succes! |
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As a note to that, i very rarely come up with something usefull (for me) with just "messing around". |
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it was worth a shot. i can't fuckin write. this was the only reason i never continued my education up untill now. i can't fuckin write. i'm goin to the campus tomorrow to see if i can get a tutor to help. i can't fuckin write. i just can't do it. it's like i'm retarded. seriously. fuck. i have to be retarded. ah! my add! i am retarded! |
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thanks btw! before i leave tomorrow i will copy and paste all your posts onto word pad and save it to my pen drive, see if i can use it for ideas with the tutor. if there are some more posts between now and then i think it should go pretty easy. i'll post the draft if i can get some more good responses. |
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you just wrote quite a few words Anyway, when I make stuff, it just kind of comes.. I start playing, and something emerges which I record and then I keep on doing this in layers. Then, when I've got some stuff, I add drums, etc, then I play other stuff like the bass. I'd say anything outside of structure (applied later) is a non-rational process. |
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First I listen to a lot of drill and generic IDM until it makes me so cross that I fire up Floops and vent my frustration at what people are doing to electronic music and I make the angriest sound possible, which is incredibly juvenile. |
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Reading this i realise that my methods are so laborious! I am surprised i get anything done at all ever. Resample, cut and paste. That is one of many methods that i use. which in turn depends on what kind of mood i am in. |
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Isn't that how Aphex did CTD? EVOL: Mate, if you're having difficulty writing (and I don't just mean you're stuck on this assignment, but have difficulty writing academically in general), go and see a tutor. Your college probably runs drop in writing workshops, or even optional "free modules" in writing in an academic style that you can take alongside your existing lessons. It might be too late to do for this essay, but if you think you have a problem with writing, it's well worth going to a couple of sessions so that the next coursework will be easier. HTH. Skink: Do you record live jams then try cutting that up and re-ordering it then? |
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i don't really have a routine |
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I usually start with a melody which has been floating about my head, or a chord sequence which I've riffed on guitar or piano. I will leave this looping, muck about with the sound until it sounds like it sounds in my head (or the nearest virtual approximation). Then I will harmonise the melody, either with chords or counter-melodies. I will then either extend the melody or the counter-melodies, so one urges the next one forward. I will then program in a beat & percussion. Then I will (normally) lose all interest in it and do something else. Sometimes I return and extend it, again either if a new melody or effect has popped into my mind, which I will add. If that sparks off more ideas, I will extend or deepen the track. Then lose interest again. Other times, I will start with a concept (two recent ones were to use all acoustic-mimicking instruments to try and recreate an acoustic guitar-type track; and the other was to make a 1980s sounding soundtrack for an imaginary film, Mango & Trash. I will then use these concepts to create a visual representation of the music & ideas which inhabit the old cranium). When I reach the height of malaise, I save it as an mp3, and then upload it to zebox and inflict it upon the unsuspecting gentlefolk of Xltronic. |
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nobody worth their wieght will judge you for not being able to write. maybe a strictly academic route is not for you. and yes you can still earn mega bucs without being able to spell a single word or string a written sentence together |
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Technically, I load samples into the Fruity Slicer plugin in FL Studio, then arrange the sequences via Piano Roll. In abstract terms, I mainly just adlib and act on impulse. In other words, laying stuff down as I go. I'm not sure how much I've contributed to the research of your assignment, but there ya go. |
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i havce the ability to write well... when i'm passionate about the particular subject. obviously, motivation is not always going to be easy to dredge up for every assignment. i guess i'm just suffering from a current bout of the old, "writer's block." usually tho if you hand me a blank canvas, i just end up staing at it anyway. i'm at uni now tho and i just finished a tutoring session which helped immensely. i'll post later when i'm finished. i have a midterm study review in my music class right now which starts in five minutes! |
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i sit down and fuck around till i find something i like |
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I'd enjoy listening to that, please. |
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I enter a state of bliss, and the world disappears around me, hours later, there's beats. |
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For drumbeats, I make a few loops on the MPC 1000, record them as different audio tracks on the sequencer, and cut them up and add effects to tiny sections of those loops where appropriate, and switch between at points them to add variation. The MPC can recieve USB data, so you can make all the individual hits on some audio editing software with lots of nice fx first, and send those to the machine; I find recording knocks and bangs from any nearby objects particularly enjoyable. Then, they'll be some extra layers which are made by step sequencing off other machines for the drums.... There's no set way to do the rest of the track ever, really, so that's a bit hard to help you with. |
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a magician does not reveal his secret |
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I make my beats by . |
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...te music. I need to learn the downsides of long a-hrefing. |
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Be jaysus you sound like a squarepusher. How did you come up with such a thing? Is this a message from God? |
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I am Aphex Twin's secret musicbox. |
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I am . |
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I can only guess how many time you've heard these tracks. You should stop doing that and buy some CD's. Seriously. |
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Too much, that's for sure. But then again, I have a big enough music library which I listen to all the time, so It's all good. |
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Actually erase that. I AM APHEX TWIN AND I ONLY LISTEN TO MY MUSIC CAUSE IT'S THE BEST. I HAVE NO EXTERNAL INFLUENCES. Amirite? |
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sometimes i go in with firm ideas, sometimes i feel myself in from the start. it's an intuitive process. |
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first. i start with a beat. |
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first i have a plan or outline for what i wish the final product to sound like. i dont get discouraged if i cant achieve that. next i select a time signature and program whatever patterns i would like to hear right then for the opening bars. later i may make that pattern part of a nother section of the tune. now i have the option of counterpointing the beats somehow, either with effects or melody, and after that its basically a matter of repeating the process and then laying on bass and lead instruments in some manner of harmony usually. |
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