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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 08:18 [#02041908]
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I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for
dubstep from outside of the UK. I've heard a few track demos
from people on the board that have been good, but I was
wondering about stuff that has actually been released.

I'm not really feeling Argon's (American label's) stuff,
other than the superb track, Bitter Love by Matty G.

Hell Science Dept, have some tracks which are
okay, but their main man comes across as such a prick
on messageboards that I cannot contemplate enjoying their
music.

Any recommendations, ideally with links to audio samples?

PS Please don't misinterpret this thread as a "Isn't the UK
scene so good, you can't step to us" one. I genuinely am
interested in hearing more non-UK dubstep.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-01-31 08:30 [#02041917]
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You're really into this Dubstep thing right now, aren't you?
Hit me with a couple of 'essential' albums for me to check
it out.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 09:24 [#02041956]
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Yes, I am, these days it's the main sort of music I listen
to and make.

There aren't really that many albums, let alone good ones.
It's a bit like drum and bass- It's more about singles/EPs.
Some acts have a few good tunes and then try to use them to
shift fairly mediocre albums.

That said, some good albums are:

Burial - Burial
Dubstep Allstars Vol. 3 (Best V/A compilation, IMO)
Tectonic Plates

Some good individual tracks:

Kromestar - Surgery
DJ Distance - Fallen
Loefah - Voodoo

NB: Please, please, please. Listen to them on a machine with
half decent speakers and a sub woofer or at least on good
quality headphones that can produce low end reasonably
accurately. Don't join the legions of people who've listened
to a couple of tracks on laptop speakers and come to the
conclusion that the genre is rubbish (because they have only
been listening to half the tracks as haven't heard any of
the very low pitched basslines).

Note also, that it's a very diverse sounding genre for one
so young. Just because you don't like one or two tracks,
don't assume you'll dislike them all.

Back to the original point of the thread, here's a link to a
sample of Bitter Love by Matty G.

I of course forgot to mention earlier, Berliner Timeblind's
"Ghostification" EP. Decent tracks, but nearer techno than
dubstep in my book.


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:19 [#02042011]
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Just break out your old Scorn 12"s, and turn the bass up!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:26 [#02042013]
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I've read about this before (someone was saying it's the one
artist that sounds like Burial), but from what I've heard
I'm not that fussed/can't see a direct correlation to
dubstep. Like Pole/Murcof/Basic Channel, I can see a
bit
of a connection, but it's not like it's the obvious
originator to my ears.

Any recommendations of particularly good tracks/those that
sound most like early dubstep.


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:38 [#02042022]
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I think it's from 1995-96 or so, but check out "Greetings
From Birmingham", one particular track: "Still On", or
possibly "Flap". Plus Logghi Badogghi (sp?) is damn good
too.

Steady bass swell, minimal beat, with a swinging hat and big
sharp snare, with some nice beat juggling for variation, and
some light texture hiding in the background.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:59 [#02042040]
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Checking out Logghi Barogghi now and I'm enjoying it. Having
difficulty finding samples of Greetings from Birmingham, but
will try to check it out later. Thanks.


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-01-31 11:14 [#02042060]
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yeah scorn is fucking underrated


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 11:15 [#02042062]
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Meho, a previous regular here, is in regular correspondence
with one (former)half of Scorn. Scorn stem from grindcore
legends Napalm Death dontchaknow.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 11:17 [#02042064]
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The chap behind Scorn was the drummer for them or something,
wasn't he? How is Meho doing? Please pass my regards to him.


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 11:19 [#02042067]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Harris


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-01-31 11:48 [#02042086]
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I want to here Welsh dubstep with the sheep sounds and shit.
That would be the phat shit right there yo.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 12:03 [#02042102]
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I rarely hear from him these days but I'm sure he's well.

Welsh dubstep? A few field recordings up at Big Pit would
work.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-31 12:56 [#02042142]
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Boxcutter is meant to be good. He's from Northern Ireland
though, so it doesn't quite qualify as non-UK..


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 13:29 [#02042164]
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Oh yes it DOES. Northern Ireland is still ours.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 13:30 [#02042167]
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Du-uh. Jonesy you moron. I didn't read that post properly.
My sincere apologies Mr. McGuiness.


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-01-31 17:52 [#02042328]
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Drop the Lime from NY plays around with many different
styles. Dubstep is more frequent with him in his recent
works.
Bad girls EP on Boomkat.

America for some reason hasnt been doing much else but toy
with dubstep here and there.

I think the main problem is that NONE of the UK DJ's do
shows in New York. If they did you'd see it spread like
wildfire.

America is all about the Bass. you cant drive in your car
without passing at least five people blasting the bass and
making your world sound throbby.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-01 02:22 [#02042612]
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Yeah, I like Boxcutter (especially the track Tauhid), but
knew he was NIrish. It's a bit like Vex'd, or Geiom- the
more IDM end of the dubstep spectrum.

Babaouo, I didn't realise Drop the Lime was non-UK, but I
had checked out the Bad Girls EP a while back and it wasn't
really my thing.

I remember seeing a documentary on dubstep (and also a few
posts online) saying there was a bi-monthly dubstep night in
NY. Doesn't sound too good, but it's not like Subloaded is a
"regular" night here, either. I agree with you that I think
it could be a lot more popular there than it is, things like
the Matty G's stuff sounds a bit like booty bass and I'm
suprised there haven't been a lot of artists from that genre
doing dubstep type tracks, the way lot of DnB & jungle
producers have switched to it. I think it could result in a
fair bit of (normal club) danceable music that'd be good
fun.

Jonesy: Yes, I reckon some field recordings of the dow
corning chemical plant and a bassline made from a foghorn
from the docks would go down a treat.

Ecnad: I will try to make a Welshstep track for you in the
next few days.


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2007-02-02 02:46 [#02043367]
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Roope K, producer of ceebrolistics, serkkupojat (and
srkkpjt), who sometimes releases his own stuff, is somewhat
related what with a dubstep night going on in helsinki,
finland, called ALAS - and i believe he is at least
influenced by dubstep/grime etc.
hope this helps



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 02:52 [#02043368]
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Very good stuff. Thanks for this, exactly the sort of thing
I was looking for.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 07:30 [#02043507]
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Sweden gets in on the acts with L-Wiz and Ekstrak. Their
Split EP is nothing outstanding, but still quite good.

In other news in my quest for more underrated dubstep tracks
from places which are not within blighty, I discovered an
artist I like a lot and even have most of his releases,
Juju, is in fact American and not a Bristolian as I has
somehow previously assumed (possibly due to the DJ Pinch
Connection).


 

offline thodob from Bergen (Norway) on 2007-02-02 08:57 [#02043590]
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phokus


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-02-02 09:05 [#02043599]
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there's gotta be some japanese out there doing the dubstep
thing. after all they were nuts about pusher before everyone
else!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 09:08 [#02043604]
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Ta for that. I'd heard his stuff before, but had forgotten
his name.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 17:34 [#02043925]
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Taffstep.

I think this will be deleted as soon as one person DLs it,
so first come, first served.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 18:41 [#02044545]
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Listening to Dubstep Allstars Vol 3 now -- only the second
track but I'm enjoying it.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 19:11 [#02044563]
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Is all Dubstep this atmospheric and sinister? I love it!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 19:15 [#02044564]
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... Imagine my surprise when I turned it off to retire for
the night, and some eerie ambient background music was
playing.. I had put a DVD in my drive and the menu music was
playing in the background. Don't I feel foolish? Although,
it went very well!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-04 11:03 [#02044964]
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Most dubstep is nowhere near as atmospheric and sinister as
Taffstep, but it can be quite good. :P

Check out Loefah's track "Voodoo" if you like that sort of
menace.

Glad you like Dubstep Allstars vol 3. the first track (Kode
9 - 9 Samurai) is in my top 5 dubstep tracks.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-04 17:26 [#02045104]
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I take it this aren't full tracks, or is a dubstep cut
usually less than two minutes long?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-05 02:01 [#02045162]
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No, tracks are usually 5 min+. Moreso than any of the other
dubstep allstars compilations, vol. 3 chops between tracks
v. quick.


 


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