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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:44 [#02039087]
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home_set

yup - fresh meat from da sadist.

this was the set i played supporting murcof last week - we
didn't have any way to record it then so i just played it a
few moments ago again.

it may sound a bit weird at times and there are lots of
mistakes in it - but that is due to the setup that i was
using.

i got tired by all those people using ableton just like
traktor for their live-sets, playing their original tracks
betmatched and with no chance for a mistake.

no wonder that people say that ableton is no real instrument
then - i mean they could also record the whole set on
winamp,m press play and play quake.

so i'm constantly trying to find an interesting way to
somehow make my live-sets in fact "live" and interesting for
the public.

i thought about the setups of exile or daedelus and came to
an idea between that.

so - my setup consists of a reaktor ensemble that i created
with parts from tim exile's beatmasher that the
native-instrument-forum-crew recreated.

i made it 8 channel now, added sends, filters, more control
over the smple and an easier interface that would tell me
exactly what's going on.

the idea is following: i have 8 channels with different
beats, one shot samples, drumloops, short melody loops. i
feed them into this ensemble and - as you will hear it - it
divides every sample automatically into 8 parts which i can
juggle around beatmatched.

now the biggest clue - i can record the beatjuggle and edit
it further - everything gets recorded on and on until i
want.

there is also a sort of "granulizer" - you'll hear it too
:D

everything is locked to my both midiboxes - the behringer
bcr and my own diy midibox.

and the effect was great - the audience was really stonished
by what's going on because the could see my hands lfying
around the knobs and could actually hear that everyhing that
happens to the music was made live on-set.



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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:46 [#02039088]
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a christ i thought this thread would be perfect

correct link


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:52 [#02039094]
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the reaktor patch itself underneath:

oh - in fact you could ask why is there ableton in the
background?

so - as i only have two hands and was constantly busy with
mashing beats i had to somehow push the tracks further in
time so they wouldn't get to boring - so i exported the
melodical content of every track as one long wav file that
is playing in the background.

you could ask - why not implenting this into reaktor and
playing only with it and toss out ableton from this setup:
now the answet is quite simple - reaktor is a bitch when it
comes to handle big files - my ones had about 80 megs each
and it just sometimes died when loading one.



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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:55 [#02039099]
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here again my diy midibox that i is perfectly suited to this
interface together with my behringer.

diy midibox - hihpass filter
- lowpass filter
- main volume of each channel
- gain

behringer - send effect 1 (reverb)
- send effect 2 (delay)
- regulations for delay and reverb (like
cutof etc.)

pc keyboard - all the magic - bet jugglinf, granulizer,
gate, and everything was launched with different buttons on
my keyboard



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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 13:09 [#02039142]
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adding a yousendit link in case the download from the ftp
will be slow:

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline blaaard from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 13:24 [#02039145]
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you should use more dbblue glitch imo.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 13:47 [#02039157]
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don't be a bitch - it's just that you haven't even changed
the settings of it because it sounds ecactly fresh out of
the box. you probably even have put it on "random"

i mean that's just not the way it goes - there is no
something like "instant-idm" where you make a drumloop, add
a few effects and the track is made.


 

offline blaaard from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 13:59 [#02039165]
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HAHAH!

i'm pretty confident more than 50% of what people call idm
IS random and improvised. so why not try and use a readymade
effects thing like glitch straight out of the box and stay
with it? why should this be a no go? what makes you think
i'm trying to make it sound hand made? it's not, it comes
out of a crappy computer. quite contemporary. [sorry for
cluttering your thread]


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:11 [#02039171]
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[nobody is interested in the subject of the topiv anyway so
as long as i can bump it replying to your posts it's cool
with me]

it's quite sad what you say - i mean it may be right that
most of 'what people call idm" is made randomly but that
doesn't mean that you should hold on to this but in fact -
against it work on your tracks. i think that this way otf
thinking is what causes idm to slowly die and why more and
more people dislike it.

on the other hand - i don't see nothing wrong in making a
few parts of tracks randomly - in fact this can even have an
artistic output - i mean just look - computer generated
randomness will never be random - there is always a pattern
or algorythm behind it or some mathematical equation so
using randomness on computers can be used to just show that
nature of machines.

but using dbglueglitch and even not turning any of the knobs
on it is going way to far - imagine everyone starts doing
that.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:14 [#02039174]
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I really like the pics you've posted. They really catch the
mood. Awesome.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:17 [#02039179]
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do you think so ? damn and i was afraid that pictures of my
cock twiddling knobs would be inadequate.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:19 [#02039180]
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I'm sure trentee and swifty are your biggest fans.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:20 [#02039182]
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downloading


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:24 [#02039186]
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thank god


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:40 [#02039194]
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i like your stuff,prob wont play it untill tomorrow but just
skipping through it now sounds good.


 

offline blaaard from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 14:41 [#02039195]
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i have to agree with what you're saying there.... however it
is just one approach to it... if it's your ideal to work
against the out-of-a-box idmism, that's great, more power to
you.

but using all that readymade stuff has to be part of the
overall continuosity and evolution of electronic music. it's
possible, so it has to be done in a way. As an individual,
you can't do anything about it anyway... too many people on
this planet, zero distance. The internet has no purpose, and
it's full of random rubbish. Exactly like the music i've
posted. On the internet. That's what happens from my point
of view.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:58 [#02039204]
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nope - effort and constantly trying to "be better" is what
pushes forward music (and actually everything) - not putting
any work into something makes it useless.

yeah but yout right that is my opinion. let's be friends


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 13:49 [#02039651]
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bump


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2007-01-28 13:54 [#02039654]
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haha that midibox and bcr look so ghetto.
why did you rape the bcr so much?

I wish I was good in electronics, then I'd put my bcr in a
nice case. not in the ugly default one.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 15:04 [#02039694]
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very nice,let me do your album artwork when you make it.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 16:00 [#02039755]
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istnie: it takes a few cm less space this way and finally
fits into a vinyl hard-case. otherwise it won't.

hanal: i'd be honoured. but careful - it won't happen very
fast.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2007-01-28 16:10 [#02039763]
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Downloading. What did u think about my hiphop mix?


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2007-01-28 16:30 [#02039767]
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listening, won't have the time to check the whole thing
tonight but I'll get back it tomorrow


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 17:35 [#02039795]
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hm... must have missed something ?


 

offline rzezniq from gorzow (Poland) on 2007-01-29 05:49 [#02040055]
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Btw sadist home is more messy then on the photos, I think he
has cleaned for the pictures!
Downloading.


 

offline zero-cool on 2007-01-29 05:49 [#02040056]
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:(..


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-29 05:53 [#02040058]
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nah - my music-making-workspace is the only part that i try
to stay clean

what's up zero ?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-29 14:39 [#02040538]
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This is really very good. The start sounds like it could be
FSOL. Still listening to it, but great so far.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2007-01-29 16:10 [#02040601]
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I'm digging the ping pong toms pulsating and making my head
bounce into oblivion. I like your style Mr. Sadist


 

offline rzezniq from gorzow (Poland) on 2007-02-01 06:12 [#02042712]
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Nice one mr. Sadist, Plonk is the winner.


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2007-02-01 06:56 [#02042739]
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Yeah this was enjoyable stuff, a keeper!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-01 07:07 [#02042745]
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downloading


 


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