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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:16 [#02035000]
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Couldn't find this to be posted when i searched -

link 1

another song



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:21 [#02035001]
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oh no


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:23 [#02035002]
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oh noe, it's the tolstoyed theme tune!


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-20 09:27 [#02035003]
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yeah, pretty harsh I think. The original is great.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:29 [#02035004]
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it's silly..one could make good money just with doing some
random nonsense beats and then search for similar things in
most popular music. nowdays everything in the greater part
of pop music's been heard before..with slight variations at
most.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 09:30 [#02035005]
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Timbaland is the Madonna of fat beats! Only difference is,
Madonna actually gives credit(s) to the artists she uses.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:30 [#02035006]
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yeah pop music's full of random nonsense beats.. for real


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:33 [#02035008]
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because she can afford it. and because it's probably cheaper
that way.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-01-20 09:34 [#02035009]
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does he even acknowledge that he ripped off the Timberland
clothing brand?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:34 [#02035010]
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it isn't like he sampled something significant there..i can
understand when people sample stuff like the most well known
abba bit or something, but with stuff like that it's just
silly.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:36 [#02035012]
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so because it's some unknown's music, it doesn't matter?

it only matters when it's some famous person's music that's
ripped off?

what the fuck?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 09:37 [#02035013]
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Well, Timbaland isn't exactly a bum either.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-20 09:37 [#02035014]
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I used to have a lot of admiration for Timbaland, but I've
realised recently how much of what he does is from sample
CDs or other songs. I'm not against using sample CDs or
samples from other songs, of course, but when you've
respected someone like that, and then found out a lot of
what they're doing it isn't built from the ground up, it can
be a bit dissapointing. Just my opinion.

Oh, and those two songs do sound remarkably similar,
although since there are only 12 different notes we can
choose from, and since it is a really catchy sequence of
notes, it could just be a coincidence. Or not.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-20 09:40 [#02035016]
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I agree with you here. I hate it when people say it doesn't
matter if the tune in question was just made by a nobody.
Music is something precious and it deserves protection and
respect whoever is producing it.

This happens more often then you'd expect, too. I've heard
quite a few stories from smaller bands and artists who've
had issues with bigger names nicking stuff just because they
can.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:40 [#02035017]
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you didn't get what im saying. i bet you could find 1000
people who did the same pattern without knowing the
'source'. i mean, it's some random beats put together..


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:42 [#02035018]
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you're saying it's just coincidence? and that timbaland
programmed the melody and beat himself?

the timbaland songs are EXACTLY the same as the originals..
he just got someone to sing over them..

i can't believe i'm reading what i'm reading.


 

offline ToXikFB on 2007-01-20 09:44 [#02035020]
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the song is still shit...

uh oh


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:46 [#02035024]
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im sure i haven't heard either of those before but when i
gave them a listen im sure i hear 10 tunes like that every
day, whenever i shift through channels and stop on mtv.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-20 09:46 [#02035025]
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You cant possibly think that it is a coincidence, it just
sounds exactly the same.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 09:48 [#02035026]
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Agreed. It almost looks like the Timbaland corporation pays
people to search the internet for music from unsigned artist
which could be used in songs.
I have to admit though, that out of all the obscure crap
that's out there, he recognizes the good stuff, tweaks some
beats here and there, actually improving it..and voila,
another million selling record! That's an art by itself.
Slightly unethical, but art nevertheless.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:48 [#02035032]
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i'm not talking about songs bearing similarity to one
another.

he took a song, and didn't alter it AT ALL, and released it
with a woman singing over it.

You don't think that's ripping someone off?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:49 [#02035033]
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maybe that finnish dude will get to produce next nelly
furtado now. i bet he would do it for cheaper.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 09:50 [#02035037]
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yeah i'd say that's definitely on the cards for him.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-20 09:50 [#02035038]
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i think he could have easily contacted the guy and gave him
a few hundred $$$ and put his name in the cd booklet and
everybody would be happy


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 09:52 [#02035039]
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that 10 seconds there are so simple/basic anyone could do
it..it's why i said probably 100 other people could also
claim they've done the same bit. it's like doing a 4/4 10
seconds sequence with some basic fruity loop tone and then
bitching about other people steal it from you..


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 09:58 [#02035044]
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Furtado was just another tool in Timbaland's pocket. But
that's besides the point. The big difference between
Timbaland and the Finnish dude would probably be, that the
Finnish dude made this one nice track, almost by accident,
and Timbaland has the vision to consistently make succesful
copies.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 10:00 [#02035046]
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if that's so im sure he will be able to get what's his
through legal possibilities. if no court will but that load
of crap, then he will know not to put his next awesome song
on the internet!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 10:00 [#02035047]
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but=buy


 

offline horselover from VALIS (Finland) on 2007-01-20 10:04 [#02035049]
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Actually that 14 seconds there is directly sampled from a
commodore 64 tune, just the bass/drums channel muted. I'd
like to hear anyone here reproduce an identical piece with a
c64.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 10:07 [#02035051]
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How many unsigned artists would be worried that their track
was being copied by Timbaland? Some would probably be
honoured. It's not THAT bad to be good enough to be copied
by the master-copier.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 10:08 [#02035052]
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are you the famous 'unknown' finnish fella who wrote the
original?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 10:09 [#02035054]
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most would probably be flattered i'd say. i know i would be.
eventhough i don't know who this timbaland person is. and i
don't like nelly either. there.


 

offline horselover from VALIS (Finland) on 2007-01-20 10:09 [#02035055]
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People have taken this unusually seriously:
explanation
wikipedia

redrum:
no, he is


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 10:14 [#02035061]
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Who is Timbaland? Does he even exist? I'm sure Monoid can
give an existentialistic insight on the matter.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 10:15 [#02035062]
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haha so much talk over a dull pop song..i bet furtado loves
the attention though, keeps her sales high :)


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-20 10:16 [#02035063]
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yeah we're definitely doing the wrong thing by discussing
this


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-01-20 10:17 [#02035064]
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i meant those links there..


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-20 10:21 [#02035065]
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Surprisingly, Timbaland hasn't made an official
response....The plot thickens.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2007-01-20 10:22 [#02035066]
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Timbaland and Magoo - 'Indecent Proposal' is da Crunk Shit
though


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-01-20 10:59 [#02035085]
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Haha, sweet. Nice one, Timbo.


 

offline trentee from Berlin (Germany) on 2007-01-20 11:12 [#02035095]
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clever nigga.

Sorry. So sorry.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-20 11:14 [#02035098]
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The new Timberlake album is pretty boring, too. I was
expecting something a bit more crunchy and novel with all
the talk surrounding it. It's catchy in places, which is
nice, but nothing special.


 

offline DJFolklore on 2007-01-20 13:03 [#02035147]
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This is nothing. Timbaland took my wife, my kids, got me
sacked from my job - I lost my house because of that
stealing beaty merchant.

The Finninsh Producer should be thankfull Timbaland got away
with just a tune here and there - he was one of the lucky
ones!

Don't think badfully of Timberbland or he will steal your
mind - and you might just hear your mind being raped on his
next original (cough, cough) release by Nelly Tomato or his
son Justin Timberland


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-01-20 13:37 [#02035162]
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offline trentee from Berlin (Germany) on 2007-01-20 13:45 [#02035167]
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offline OK on 2007-01-20 13:48 [#02035169]
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what so it has the same bassline, beat and tempo. sounds
like it could be a coincidence


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-01-20 13:51 [#02035170]
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No such things.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2007-01-20 14:01 [#02035174]
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that's kinda what i was thinking. it's definitly not a
sample. and actually, you don't have to pay royalties for a
reperformance of a track if the words are changed. for
example, weird al yankovic does not have to pay royalties
for his parodies.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2007-01-20 14:08 [#02035176]
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but now i can't find my source. maybe Al does have to pay
royalties. i swear he said in an interview that he
doesn't..



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2007-01-20 14:11 [#02035177]
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from wikipedia.com

"Despite such cases of Yankovic apparently backing down,
parody is recognized as fair use under copyright laws, so he
is actually free to parody any artist's work without
permission. He apparently asks the permission of artists in
order to maintain good relationships and avoid pointless
lawsuits."


 


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