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offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 05:33 [#02013443]
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I've always fancied one but heard the home vinyl cutters
produce inferior vinyl and the records don't last long?
Anyone got one or has experience with one?


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-12-06 05:34 [#02013444]
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do it yourself, punk!


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 05:36 [#02013445]
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That's the general idea!


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-12-06 06:03 [#02013457]
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i dont have one and aint an expert, but i guess home vinyl
is probably superior than industrial fordist ones,
since its made individualy, with more attention and care.

as for lasting longer, all you need is good raw material.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 06:58 [#02013472]
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the Vestax VRX2000 is actually supposed to produce pretty
good results. Havent used one myself but friend of a
friendness brings news that its a quality product for the
price.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-06 07:30 [#02013477]
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Yes, they have much better durability than dub plates too.

I thought it'd be a good sideline for someone like HTFR to
buy one and to offer dubplate cutting on vestax plates (you
could make it profitable at as little as £15 + £3 P&P as
opposed to £25-30 for dubplates). You mail them a CD and
payment and within 2 weeks they send your cd back and the
cut record.

Sheffield Bleep:
Something to be aware of is that you'll still need to have
it mastered as if it's for vinyl, or else it won't sound
great/might be more prone to skipping. Vinyl mastering is a
bit of an artform (allegedly, I've never done it) and whilst
you can get away with mastering CDs yourself, vinyl is meant
to be a bit trickier. If you're insistant on mastering it
yourself, adhere to the following:

*make a cutoff below 20-25 hz

*make a cutoff above 18 khz

*make sure your low frequency is mono (correlation not
negative)

*dont use fancy psychoacustic effects. they give you nothing
but trouble if you are not experienced

(taken from a dubplate cutting website)

stefano_azevedo:
"as for lasting longer, all you need is good raw
material."


Dunno if you're talking about something different, but if
you mean home cutting, this just isn't true. You could use
absolutely top notch "audiophile" dub plates (if such things
exist) and the best dubplate cutting machine operated by the
best operator in the world, but it'd still last less time
than a poor vinyl pressing on 100% recycled vinyl. The
vestax things work better because they're harder, thicker
and more like plastic than normal dubplates.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 08:17 [#02013501]
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Good advice Ceri CJ. Yeah I've read the pitfalls of vinyl
mastering etc. The Vestax machine looks great.


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2006-12-06 08:35 [#02013507]
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My advice about cutting vinyl is to be aware of any phasing
and repair it!

if you can get your hands on a copy of Samplitude and
Sequoia 8.1 and run your tracks through that and repair the
phasing, you can roll off the highs and lows just like Ceri
JC suggested.

You can also use it to mono a spectrum of the sound
frequencies... such as lowend bass frequencies... since
they're non directional and any phasing or stereo(ness) will
cause it to washout or burnout the cutting head.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE cutting records. I wish I could do it all
the time.... I usually take my tunes over to a friends house
who does the majority of my mastering. (he has a better
system and a fresh set of ears to mine) But on the good
projects it's always nice to send stuff to The Exchange,
Niltz is a genius!


 


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