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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 16:58 [#02012710]
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(luckily previous thread was in cache)
yeah
that's the pretentious title
the other one is Politifullmektig
I was just doodling, in a way, so it's kind of "loose" at times, but I kind of like the looseness.. Everything is played, but without clicktrack or any sort of thing for keeping in beat. It's also way way longer than this, I just had to cut at places, cut out the best stuff or whatever.
I'm also writing the sheet music for it, and it'd take three
piano players on three pianos to play it. I'd love to hear it performed with three different pianos, so if anyone has a
piano and can play easy two-handed stuff (it is an etude, after all), let me know. Of course, I can record all the voices once more myself (with a click), I'd just like to
hear it recorded with three different pianos by three different players. And if you feel you're able to take liberties with any sheet music given to you and actually pull it off, that's even better! The music should be interpreted, not played back.
Of course, I'd like to hear some opinions on it as well if anyone's got any.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:00 [#02012716]
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Drunken Mastah from Den Eksistensielle Karusell (Norway) on 2006-12-05 00:43 [#02012685]
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also
this is a sort of self-jam, and you always get a sort of sense of the development in things like that, and I'd love to hear it if anyone else have jammed with themselves... something spontaneous and just featuring yourself over yourself..?
online marlowe from Down Fall All We (Antarctica) on 2006-12-05 00:47 [#02012691]
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Downloading. I remember writing an Elegy for Two Pianos in D
minor once when I did Music at College. On a related note.
online Indeksical from brham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-05 00:49 [#02012696]
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the three pianos clash quite a bit to my ears. i need to listen to it again but on first impressions the piano playing the lowest range is just not tuned in. perhaps a slight mimickry of the midrange piano but an octave or two lower would be good? i dunno. having said that i really liked the plinkyness of the last third although still some really garish clashes. that just my ears though sorry!
online Indeksical from brham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-05 00:50 [#02012698]
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also yes i have jammed 'with myself' most of my tracks are just that. it is much easier than jamming with other people.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:00 [#02012717]
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how confusing
online Drunken Mastah from Den Eksistensielle Karusell (Norway) on 2006-12-05 00:53 [#02012699]
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it's all on the same thing, and this is on a synth patch, not a real piano.. I wish I had a real piano, but I'd have to carry it up seven floors after I'd spent a million money on it. If it doesn't sound tuned, that's probably just dissonance, and not "real" detunedness.
Unless I'm reading you wrong.. I'll cover all bases: They're
supposed to overlap in range. That's why it requires three pianos, and not just three pianists on one piano.
online Phobiazero from a clockwork orange (Sweden) on 2006-12-05 00:53 [#02012700]
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i like 'phrotos'
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:01 [#02012719]
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followup to phobiazero [numbers]
what is phrotos?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 17:02 [#02012724]
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as i said before the three pianos seem to clash to my ear. i have to listen again (which i will do in a short while) but it seems the lower piano segment is just not in the same key as the middle one causing jarring chords. perhaps this is your intention i do not know :) some people want to create jarring noises, sparse or empty compositions etc. i give spam the benefit of the doubt it is just my ears sorry! having said that the plinkyness in the last third is really nice but again clashing notes sorry i will stop being a sourpuss about spam!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 17:04 [#02012726]
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wow well covered! well yes i didnt mean detuned i meant that the keys dont sound good together in my ears. i am drunk though! i know you have been drinking due to spying on threads what has been your tipple this evening?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:05 [#02012728]
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I'm going to listen to it in headphones
but I'm pretty sure it isn't detuned.. was just recording and recording, and have cut the parts together, and I didn't change anything on the settings, neither tuning, nor anything else, so...
what's your speaker setup?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 17:06 [#02012729]
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hehe see above i am not expalingiong myself properly. when i say tuning i mean KEYS. the different pianos are not in the same key! sorry!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 17:07 [#02012730]
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also i am on big massive sony headphones. they are SHIT. fuck you sony and your ugly PS3s with their mega expensiveness.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:08 [#02012731]
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hmm
that's weird
it's even a penthatone (sp?) scale which I kept pretty strictly within...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 17:09 [#02012732]
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hahaha, that could explain a bit
low frequencies rarely come out right on headphones if they come out at all...
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 17:35 [#02012740]
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no no no they may all be on a penthatone (sp?) scale but are they all in the same key?? man maybe i am being a retard i am going to sleep.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-12-04 17:40 [#02012742]
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will listen to once studio is over!!! in about 4 hours
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-05 03:23 [#02012863]
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yes yes
same key.
though I'm not sure which
I guess it's a C Major, but not a "proper" C Major penthatone, but rather a C Major in which I only use five of the keys.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2006-12-05 06:38 [#02012911]
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Hey, DM the "politfullmektig" is really nice.
I was about to say there is a cut-sound in the song, but you mentioned cutting out parts yourself, so ...
It's a nice little tune, and the looseness gives it a spontaneous flow.
It'd be interesting to hear a second-melody-part, sort of like a ... uh, what's it called now ...?
Refräng? Vad heter refräng på engelska? :D
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2006-12-05 06:47 [#02012915]
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Hey, forgot to say thanks for your comments on my ambient:ish tracks.
So, thanks.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-05 08:09 [#02012948]
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thanks!
refräng = refrain or chorus
as far as I know both words also have multiple meanings, like you have "this song has a good refrain," but at the same time you can say "I'd rather refrain from doing this" and similar things for chorus, but chorus has more meanings I think...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-06 19:15 [#02013756]
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For the most part, a pleasing berceuse. It sounds pretty Enoesque for the most part - if you placed the three pianos at different distances from the listener, threw in a little more - subtle - instrumentation, I'd be interested in listening to that version also. Nice, though; pleasing.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-06 19:19 [#02013760]
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Reading through the thread, I believe it's the Pentatonic scale to which you're referring - the easiest way to determine the tone-row for the pentatonic is to use the black keys and transpose from there to whichever Key you're working in. So, the pentatonic scale for C would be:
C-D-F-G-A
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-07 04:35 [#02013933]
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thanks! I don't know what you mean about the subtle instrumentation, but.. I was kind of planning on re-recording it with three different pianos. I know of two that I can go and play it on, so I just need to do that and then find a third one somewhere.
aren't there many different pentatonic scales? I'm using C D E G A for this one.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-07 05:18 [#02013963]
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Instrumentation: I mean, instruments other than pianos, but used in a subtle manner so as not to stick out... I was really thinking of Eno's On Land as a template when listening, so you could listen to that for ideas about instrumentation.
The Pentatonic Scale: I've no idea if they are 'other' pentatonic scales, but I was taught that the pentatonic scale was the black keys on a piano.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-07 05:49 [#02013973]
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I think pentatone only means that it uses five of the keys in an octave. Of course, the black keys are only five per octave, so it's a good starting point, but I think you can use any five. The blues scale is a pentatone, and I can't really remember what it's really supposed to be, but if you play (up) C E G A Bb (down) A G E C, you get that "classic" rock and roll/blues thing...
but yeah, I could probably do other instruments but the idea was to make a piece for three pianos.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-12-07 08:37 [#02014017]
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This is beautiful. :] The intro alone makes me think of quiet winter days where everything is still and calm and snow falls softly beyond the treeline. :]
<3
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-12-07 08:55 [#02014029]
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Very mellow, very enjoyable. It reminds me of Philip Glass in a very good mood. The looseness is what I like most about it, makes it sound very authentic and not mechanical, like most of my music does. :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-07 09:13 [#02014035]
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thanks you sex animal you!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-07 09:14 [#02014036]
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merci beaucoup monsieur!
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