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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 06:03 [#02006636]
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you might find this interesting...
Abstract
Machines have the power and potential to make expressive music on their own. This thesis aims to computationally model the process of creating music using experience from listening to examples. Our unbiased signal-based solution models the life cycle of listening, composing, and performing, turning the machine into an active musician, instead of simply an instrument. We accomplish this through an analysis-synthesis technique by combined perceptual and structural modeling of the musical surface, which leads to a minimal data representation.
We introduce a music cognition framework that results from the interaction of psychoacoustically grounded causal listening, a time-lag embedded feature representation, and perceptual similarity clustering. Our bottom-up analysis intends to be generic and uniform by recursively revealing metrical hierarchies and structures of pitch, rhythm, and timbre. Training is suggested for top-down unbiased supervision, and is demonstrated with the prediction of downbeat. This musical intelligence enables a range of original manipulations including song alignment, music restoration, cross-synthesis or song morphing, and ultimately the synthesis of original pieces.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-23 06:12 [#02006640]
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wheres the heart and soul though?
drum machines have no soul!!!!11111111111111111
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 06:18 [#02006641]
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totally. there is none.
at least with stuff like squarepusher, etc, the soul is written in the music.. here we have music both written and performed by computers.
i hope it's as shit as it sounds.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-23 06:31 [#02006645]
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machines have the possibility of making expressive music? doesn't expressive imply that there is something to be said? a computer can't have something to say on its own...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-23 09:32 [#02006721]
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Indeed, any 'soul' in the music the machine makes is that of the person who made the machine.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-23 10:06 [#02006740]
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he uses words in wrong contexts all the time
he calls composing an act of creation in which one puts sounds together, and then argues that computers can compose because they can put things together. However, I believe he means that computers can produce a sound by putting sounds together, which is quite different from creating.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-11-23 10:19 [#02006741]
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although it might be interesting in some ways:
i mean just imagine - a computer that has the exact musical and melodical style as you. that would be the perfect band partner. might be quite interesting.
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hma
from real life on 2006-11-23 12:31 [#02006788]
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check out ramona
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