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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-20 15:59 [#02005216]
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Hi, after trying to do songs for pop vibes and failing I decided to pick a good song and do it myself, this is it. something new for me, feedback very welcome
plz download julia thx
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-20 16:13 [#02005220]
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Attempts at making pop music are greatly appreciated. I really like that.
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* Good pop music is the best there is
* It sounds a bit like squarepushers "pop" songs (red hot car, do you know squarepusher)
* Good thing with a slow beat, and some funky snare attacks from time to time
* Beat is funky in general (maybe a bit to R n Bish/unpersonal, but what the hell)
* Good song to make a cover of
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* I think it lacks some stuff that made the original good (chord structure i think. Could have stayed truer to the original in that respect)
* Something about the vocoder sounds doesnt sound quite right in my head.
All in all, glad to see something on the board in this style. I'd like to hear you explore the genre more, maybe make some of your own compositions.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-11-20 16:15 [#02005221]
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is this a complete version of a track ? just asking and meanwhile, while waiting for the answer, let me have a nap and i'll download the track in the morning.
let the thread grow
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-20 16:28 [#02005222]
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nice one, i really liked it i only would have preferred it if the beat was less jittery and a bit heavier. great job on the vocoding and bass, it's definitely good to hear this kind of thing on here. *listens again*
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-20 16:49 [#02005228]
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Sounds quite nice, although a bit like a first draft - I think it needs more harmonic depth; there are times when I felt a real need for harmonic depth but nothing happened. Harmonic Depth.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-11-20 17:15 [#02005248]
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I don't recognize the original but this is a great song Dannn_
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-20 17:17 [#02005251]
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im very happy you chaps liked it, brilliant feedback too, '"mad props yo"
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-20 17:19 [#02005253]
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hey thanks to you too, im going to send it to my dad tomorrow, he will probably say "dan, youve butchered a classic"
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-20 17:25 [#02005255]
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I like the idea and the style, but yeah, it's a bit musically sparse, seems to be missing something. Harmonic depth, or something... yeah harmonic depth sounds right, I think I'm onto something there. But I like it, interesting listen.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-20 17:34 [#02005257]
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I agree with what the others say. It needs a little remix, and THEN it will certainly be a classic.
One thing, that might be a completely personal preference, is that it doesnt sound rough enough. It could carry a bit more punch and richness. Either that, or it has to sound perfect and "expensive", wich it doesnt quite do right now either. Maybe loose the reverb on the vocoder, but more of the baground click clacks with a long reverb on.
I might not have a clue what i'm talking about, so do with this what you want.
The reason i take time to elaborate on it, is because i basically like the tune quite a bit, and i'd (as i said before) really love to hear more in this style from you.
This goes for the rest of xltronic as well.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-20 17:35 [#02005258]
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I think you should leave the IDM Kiosk from time to time.... it's a fab Lennon song, about his dead ma. I think it features on "The White Album"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-20 17:40 [#02005259]
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it's good, but I don't really like the vocoding; it's too prominent in the song. You should either make it fit better in or just leave the vocoding out and use the voice unmodified... it'd probably sound great if you just sang it and overdubbed yourself a few times with different tones.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-20 17:41 [#02005260]
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yo, totally agree i'm about to get a talkbox to use with my sh101 so expect some troutman-inspired love before too long.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-20 17:45 [#02005263]
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Aaaaaaaaaah. That fucking perfect!
I'm truly looking forward to that!
Could you give me some feedback on what you think about it when you get it? That would be greatly appreciated.
I've been meaning to buy one for ages!
Roger Troutman > Everything else
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-20 17:50 [#02005264]
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I kind of like the vocoding but I know some people find it annoying. the extent to which I cant sing was revealed to me while making this. (its a really big extent). i will do songs with a singing lady soon.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-20 17:52 [#02005265]
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Just call it "naive singing style"
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-20 18:43 [#02005268]
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first let me say that I hate when people cover beatles songs, especially their slower stuff not to mention from the white album. That said, I really really like it. I can definietly see everyones opinions with the more harmonic depth but at the same time if you make it too much like the original I think it will take away from your version. I do like the vocoding if you keep the melodies thin, it adds this cold feeling to it, which is a nice juxtiposition which the actual lyrics from the song. Overall very well done
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-20 18:46 [#02005269]
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I think you should leave the IDM Kiosk from time to time.... it's a fab Lennon song, about his dead ma. I think it features on "The White Album"
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-11-20 21:18 [#02005281]
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Did you vocode that vocal track? I love it! :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-21 04:59 [#02005377]
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Weird, it reposted my follow-up to Aesthetics.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 05:02 [#02005378]
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beadle's about
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 05:15 [#02005383]
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At first i thought it was a cover of "aphex twin - beatles" by an artist name, "julia" that you invented...
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 05:16 [#02005384]
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Thats because i don't know beatles from beetles
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-21 05:39 [#02005394]
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heh, Julia Cover would make a humourous artist-name... maybe as a warm-up for Tori Amos or someone similar.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 05:43 [#02005397]
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sure did my friend. in fact i also had to cut the vocal track up at almost every syllable too, because i cant sing in time either
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xceque
on 2006-11-21 06:55 [#02005416]
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When I record songs that are sung out of both sync and tune I use Nuedo (stretching) and Melodyne (tuning) to fix it! Subtle usage works like a charm.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 06:59 [#02005419]
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you've only ever posted part of a full track you hadn't even finished
do you have a full version of a finished track?
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-21 09:46 [#02005493]
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how expensive is Melodyne and who makes it? I could look it up online but im about to leave for a couple of hours
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xceque
on 2006-11-21 11:04 [#02005553]
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ha! I'm dead busy. Working on band material. That track has progressed in odd directions - I don't know if I'd be comfortable reading folks slagging it off before I've decided I'm done with it. I'm not particularly desperate for praise either.
Anyway, It's not just piano and violin any more - never was intended to be really but now it's more different than it was - I know this is making no sense.
I'm working on about 8 different projects at once! All of them half started. Or half finished. Or half arsed :)
I promise that, if anyone cares, once I finish something I'll post it for critical appraisal.
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xceque
on 2006-11-21 11:06 [#02005556]
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Melodyne is from Celemony, and I've no idea how expensive it is since I've not paid for it :)
If I was making money from the software I use I'd buy it, but for now I can't afford it, whatever it costs.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 11:12 [#02005559]
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make sure you do that! you don't even need to post it for the purpose of people criticising it, I just want to hear it because I remember the excerpt as being very good, and I also hope that any other tracks are as good. However, if you ever do post it, I'll probably criticise it even if you don't want me to, but critique can be good as well as bad and constructive even when it's bad.. or something. In short: post finished tracks when they're.. finished...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 11:14 [#02005560]
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thanks, I'll look into these
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-11-21 11:33 [#02005569]
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i demand Julia [extended version].....7'35'' ASAP
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-05-02 18:21 [#02078615]
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the track is no longer available at your zeebox, i wanted to show it to my mate, is it online anywhere else ? plz thx
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-10-01 08:03 [#02127059]
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medeski scofield martin & wood - julia
recommending
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-10-01 09:53 [#02127086]
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theres nothing called julia on this site
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