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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-29 13:56 [#01994666]
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what is the best standalone hardware sample-rate-reducer? or piece of hardware that has an elaborate/complex srr?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-10-29 14:05 [#01994670]
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ever heard of google?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-29 14:09 [#01994673]
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What one does Autechre use?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-29 14:17 [#01994679]
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>> ever heard of google?
nope
>> What one does Autechre use?
ever heard of google?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-29 15:29 [#01994685]
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wait wait wait
you need.. a.. standalone hardware item.. that reduces the sample rate of.. some sound output... why..?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-29 16:10 [#01994701]
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why do you even want to reduce the sample rate in the first place, and why not just do it on your computer? I'm not even sure signal cables work with sample rates, so the sample rate after having gone through a normal cable would be that of the box processing it if that even has a sample rate...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-29 17:01 [#01994764]
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they sound pretty bad, all the software ones ive tried out dont really do it well. sps-1's has it and you can do it through the inputs, but its just one param (level of crunchiness). was wondering if there was something dedicated for it and provided really good sound quality thats all, and more options maybe. was just curious
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-29 17:06 [#01994766]
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isn't sample rate reduction something digital no matter how you do it? I seriously doubt you'd get any boxes that do it much better than a computer... I still don't get why you want to do it...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-29 17:44 [#01994769]
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it sounds fresh on some stuff man, kinda just get some shit thats really crunchy kinda get it all grsshshh some rap beats like Boooshh boosh grsshghh ta-ta boooosh boosh grssh ta -ta grsgh-a-ta-ta-ta-boosh-ta-ta BOOSH BOOSH grssh-a-ta-ta BOOSH BOOSH grsh-a-ta-ta BOOSH BOOSH, you know
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-29 17:45 [#01994771]
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Because it's a cool effect.
Here you go, the frostwave sonic alienator!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 02:50 [#01994832]
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So you pretty much want a decimator? If you're looking for hardware, the one in the Korg ES-1 effects is pretty good. You can do some awesome stuff with the ES-1 FX.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 03:01 [#01994835]
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wouldn't that just be some kind of distortion?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-10-30 03:57 [#01994848]
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Beat me to it ;)
That frostwave are really stand up people. I bought a resonator from them, and its the coolest thing on earth. I plan on getting the sonic alienator next.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-30 05:50 [#01994880]
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Yeah, frostwave is really nice. I had some nice conversations with Paul Perry when I bought their step-sequencer. I recommend frostwave to everyone :)
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skeksi23
from ∆ on 2006-10-30 10:40 [#01995113]
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the mighty commodore amiga
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-10-31 04:26 [#01995613]
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I just bought a kurzweil mangler. Their is some nice bit destruction things happening there, plus a whole lot more. A very high quality unit IMO. I don't know how much its in your budget, but I suggest it.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-31 04:38 [#01995618]
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try the e-phonic lo fi filter, i think it can do excatly what you want. It's a VST and FREE
E-phonic
at the bottom "audio destruction unit"
I use it a lot myself.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-31 05:24 [#01995631]
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Akai S950.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-10-31 05:49 [#01995646]
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I had one of those. I ended up selling it.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 01:52 [#01996041]
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They're great! Not a sample rate reducer more like low sample rate without a choice but they sound fantastic!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-01 02:45 [#01996047]
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Yeah. I had a hard on for one since I got into hardware. I eventually sold it because I wasn't using it very often (1 sampler is enough for me).
Now that I think about it, weren't you suggesting a couple different hardware sequencers to someone here once? I am thinking of trying my hand at a workstation that doesn't start with mpc, and am kind of at a loss.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 04:58 [#01996062]
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I've used analogue hardware sequencers by Doepfer and Korg but they're only for modular/CV stuff.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-01 05:08 [#01996064]
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Cygnus, did you try out the vst i linked? You really should, it's brilliant.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-01 05:13 [#01996066]
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Gotcha. I forgot who it was, but they started frequenting here about the same time you did, so I thought it might be you.
So, you have a modular system going? How are you liking that?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-01 05:14 [#01996067]
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the best software sample rate reducer I have tried is the MDA degrade. Its true.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 05:25 [#01996072]
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A friend of mine is well into his doepfer stuff, I get lost in all the wires! I have a nord micro modular though which is well cool, I find myself using it more as an effects unit more than a synth.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-11-01 05:26 [#01996074]
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You could check out these midi-sequencers taxidermist: Alesis MMT8 - very nice Roland MC-500 - cryptic, but good if you master it Yamaha RM1X - haven't tried it, but I think it's supposed to be good. I think I'm going to buy one of these
Yamaha QY700 - Looks cool, haven't tried this one either Yamaha RS7000 - Tried it once, seemed nice
And I guess the Roland MC-808 and MC-909 could be nice as well, but they're a little bit more expensive.
When it comes to step-sequencers I've only used the frostwave one, and I find it very nice. It's got both midi and cv/gate.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 05:27 [#01996075]
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Talking about the Nord micro modular, that has a great digitizer unit which is great for playing with sample rates, loads of choice right down to 1bit crunchy shit.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-11-01 05:36 [#01996078]
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Yeah, I might see if I can find a cheap one and use it for fx some day. It seems like it's perfect for that kind of thing.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-01 05:37 [#01996079]
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Here's what I have in mind for my next workstation. I don't know if all this exists, but I am sure something close is out there:
Grid sequencing. Nice big menu that is well lit. Ability to connect it to a monitor and mouse for advanced midi editing.
Non-esoteric storage media. 5 octave keyboard. Lots of midi outs. Copy/Paste. An interface that doesn't require a degree in cryptography to understand (too much thinking hampers creativity).
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-11-01 05:38 [#01996080]
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Sound's like thos "computer keyboard workstations" Devine pu t on fire.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-11-01 05:38 [#01996081]
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grhawgrahrg, those* put*
hahaha
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 06:16 [#01996092]
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Sample it, play it into the speaker of a portable tape recorder, resample that. Repeat to fade.
It will sound shit then, I promise.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-01 08:09 [#01996148]
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I'd recommend 1! If you can be arsed with it you can construct a full blown synth like the nord lead with it!
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-11-01 08:19 [#01996155]
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Yeah, I know. I've used the software version of the g2 engine to have some fun, even though it only lets me do monophonic patches. I went down to one of the local hardware shops with Staz and hooked a g2 up to a microkorg and an RS7000. Was good fun :D
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-01 09:31 [#01996168]
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ive been messing w/ it , yeah. should i post some stuff?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-01 20:35 [#01996442]
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A neko? Kind of. I want a dedicated one-trick-pony sequencer workstation, not a PC. Most certainly not something that is going to cost $6000us :S
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-02 04:25 [#01996479]
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I just wanted to hear what you thought
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