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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-17 16:17 [#01988477]
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Becuase I find productive work such a bind, I often find myself tinkering with all my musical hardware (a laptop), searching to find the essence of Ambient Techno. It has eluded me for over 10 years. It continues to elude me. But now and again, I say "enough", and let the bastard sons of cheap soundcards and cheaper software run loose, that they might find happiness. These are just three of their stories.
1). Ambient Techno
2). (Party like it's)1993
3). Fair Light
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-17 16:19 [#01988478]
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Will listen tomorrow, sounds great.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-17 16:20 [#01988480]
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Reccomend me one of them
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-17 16:23 [#01988483]
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1 is awesome, and probably the best track I've heard from you. The next two tracks may also contain something that will make this statement void as they may be better. For some reason, and I've never really "felt" this before, but... I feel lik this track has some real proper progression to it even though it stays the same
2 the synth/sound/whatever is awesome! that sound, you know which one. This is one of those weird party tracks that would get me out dancing after a few tequila shots (though, after a few tequila shots, I'd dance to Avril Lavigne). It needs to be longer.
3 made me go isn't this a boards of canada track before the first second was over, but it isn't really enough of a track for me to be able to say anything. it clips going out.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-17 16:49 [#01988488]
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I just listened to this, and it's sounding pretty fucking good in my ears actually. Mind you, i'm in a good mood, drunkish, and i've cooked with a girl who digs squarepusher, so this might colour my review of this.
I love short tracks, but i'd love the 1'st one to be longer. It could go on for a long time, evolve, small changes in the melody lines and so forth. The quite brilliant bassline ties the whole thing together.
(this post is only about the first track)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-17 16:55 [#01988490]
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It's times like these I regret being such a spiteful shit.
I also just came to the conclusion that clipping is the digital equivalent of dust crackles and pops of 20th Century vinyl.
You all have lovely ears, and lovely little faces too, I bet.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-17 16:57 [#01988493]
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The SAW 1 influence is obvious, but thats a good thing, since that album is brilliant
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-17 17:00 [#01988494]
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Fuck... i have to sleep now. Maybe ill give it a sober listen tomorrow
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-17 17:04 [#01988496]
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1). Ambient Techno---really nice, like the flow
2). (Party like it's)1993---isnt doing anything for me at this instant, the 1993 is hitting me hard, ok i lied, listend to it again, im in the record groove
3). Fair Light--nice, make it longer
the record cover is sweet "25p" long live Grinning Ape
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-17 17:08 [#01988502]
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oh man, i'm parrtying like it's 1993 as i speak.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-17 17:18 [#01988511]
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Ambient techno is the best of them so far. I find that it works even better at a lower tempo!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-17 17:20 [#01988513]
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He's mixing it already!
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-17 17:23 [#01988519]
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Haha, I'm sorry :o
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-17 17:25 [#01988525]
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great stuff, d_b. ambient techno is deep, i've had it on loop for ages... your best yet. 1993: funny, loved the detuned synth. fair light was deceptive, what i thought a sly pause before it really kicked in was actually the end... you could have made it into something as good as the first track, but still, it's altogether the best music i've heard on here in a long time, and i'd buy it if i saw it, even with all that price label residue
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-17 17:26 [#01988527]
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I'm so glad, so glad, beyond the music thing.. that you picked up on the price label residue. You're a very special lad, and I wish you every success.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-17 17:39 [#01988537]
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the fairlight tune is fucking lush as hell but its only 35 secs long :(, listening to ambient techno next
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uviol
from United States on 2006-10-17 17:53 [#01988541]
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Love the tracks and their respective titles. Ambient Techno is very spacious and resonant.. I love the oblique references to dated sound palettes.. something I like to think I'm attunded to. It's a tough balancing act trying to get the elements to gel without it becoming forced or 'retro'.. which would be an easy mistake when you're dealing with this kind of subject matter. There's this one synth sound that you use that I've always liked, especially drowned in reverb, but I don't know the name of it.. hits at 1:56 and kind of bubbles up at other places. Very nice.. Mmm!!
I'd start bitching about the clipping but you've already prefaced its usage, so I'm okay with it :) I don't hear the pause+kick that horsefactor descibed in the last track though, did I download a truncated version (35 secs)? Anyway, great work, once again...!
P.S. 1993 must be some sort of a totemic year for us, as this shit I made in high school will attest to (very bottom of the page).
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staz
on 2006-10-17 18:35 [#01988545]
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this is really really really really cool and good. great flavors of proper lush techno.
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oyvinto
on 2006-10-17 19:08 [#01988549]
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ambient techno would fit as a soundtrack for a fishing movie where they fly over the river in a helicopter and there are clous very low and moving fast. it will start to rain any moment.
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oyvinto
on 2006-10-17 19:08 [#01988550]
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there are clous
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 03:04 [#01988605]
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The other day, I was listening to some modern "microhouse" on Boomkat (can't remember who it was by- someone I'd not heard of before) and it sounded like someone had done a clone of Jeff Mill's "The Bells" using Reaktor's presets (on reflection, that's probably how it was done). Ambient Techno does the same sort of "heard it before, but in a good way" trick, but I can't work out what it is that it sounds like.
(Party like it's) 1993 is probably my least favourite one, but the morphing cat-like synth is quite interesting.
"Fair Light" could be off Pycho's next album.
Best sound of the "EP"? It's a toss up between the kick drum on Ambient Techno and the way the cat-synth at the end of 1993 clips and sounds like a snare.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 03:05 [#01988606]
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Come on i_x_ten, I want to hear what you think of these tracks...
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-18 03:14 [#01988608]
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well. i think 'ambient techno' track is actually not bad.
the other two tracks are the usual standardard of over praised sub-par grinning ape wanky doodle. 1993 sounds like how a clown might sound. i hate clowns.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-18 03:15 [#01988609]
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also that was weird, because i'd just downloaded the tracks, was reading through the thread ready to voice my opinion, and your post appears. spooky
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-10-18 03:21 [#01988610]
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ambient techno is good, really good....
1993 made me laugh (well, the synth at least)
Fair Light was so so
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-10-18 06:53 [#01988658]
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This is wonderful and great and I wish it wasn't 128kbps.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 08:02 [#01988679]
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Suffer no longer the ignominy of listening to sub-par 128kbps mp3s and lose yourself in the luxury of the executive 256 kbps version (now with 10% less fatty snare).
Though I'm not 100% sure it makes all that much difference with my threadbare old pish.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:07 [#01988683]
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Don't downplay it man- this is a limited edition, remastered audiophile quality pressing of a dance classic.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 08:17 [#01988690]
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You mentioning Pycho (quite rightly, though that track was a nod to a bit of Fairlight noodling found only at the very end of Frankie Goes to Hollywood's "Power of Love" Cassette single (true)), did you see Tycho's back, under a new guise?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:29 [#01988693]
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Ha ha, 75 hand made copies? Loooooser. My cd is 100 handmade copies. Hence 25% better.
I can guess the masmod bio (included in the EP) timeline goes like this then:
Debute as a shameless BoC clone-> Deny any knowledge of BoC or their music-> Continue to make BoC soundalikes and steal their style and imagery wholesale->
Concede that a "friend made me a tape" with some BoC on and that you were inspired by it->
Once you've achieved a reasonable level of fame and been signed to several "small idm labels" (TM), gradually drop the BoC aesthetic and change your sound->
Finally make your own music and get it noticed by the fame generated by the whole "Tycho" elaborate marketing scheme.
Really, it seems the parallels between Tycho and Pycho are closer than first expected.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:37 [#01988698]
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Ceri JC: you have a cd out ? Where could I d/l it ? still spinnin "tracklisting to be made"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:44 [#01988701]
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Should be available to buy fairly shortly (on Spunktronics). I've just been asked to remaster a couple of the tracks before it's released, but once that's done, it should be a couple of weeks. I'll spam it on here once it's out, but I'll email you too.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:46 [#01988702]
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Sorry dog_belch, derailed your thread a bit there. This extended higher quality version is great.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-18 08:57 [#01988706]
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Ceri JC: thats cool id apprecite that, congs on Spunktonics, ill have to go look @ their page
Dog_Belch: good job with the higher quality version, you have a few tricks up your sleeve :) i d/l the 3 at home yesterday, but just grabbed the new one.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-10-18 09:41 [#01988722]
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These tracks are "ok". They seem short compared to others I've heard of yours and slight bit more generic. I was hoping that (Party Like It's) 1993 was going to be something like a release from "Boy Life", only without the words. Still, saved to playlist.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 10:10 [#01988731]
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I've sold out. What's "Boy Life"? Something I should know about, yet another item to add the litany of things I've passed over in favour of "Some old bollocks"?
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-10-18 10:11 [#01988732]
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I don't know. It's modern electro. Probably some gay emo stuff you wouldn't like. But it's worth a listen just to say you have.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2006-10-18 10:22 [#01988734]
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25p
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-18 16:22 [#01989018]
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Ambient Techno very cool track, shame i can't crank the volume up (everyone's in bed) so it's difficult for me to hear the bassline, but i like this one muchly
(Party like it's) 1993 i like the lead-line melody the comes in, but seems kind of short? any plans to expand this one?
Fair Light this is my favorite, i like the pad sound a lot, and the minimal drums. i always end up overpowering a track with drums, which is a weakness with my music sometimes i think.
i hope that my annoying you with the cake doesn't make my comments here any less sincere.
for all the hardware i've got, you are right - i haven't got much output to show for it. but the situation i'm in doesn't allow me to create much except for the scant track that's badly recorded on a memo cassette recorder when the girlfriend's parents are out of the house (because they can't stand the racket)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 16:35 [#01989021]
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I'm just being mean, it's what I do, it's all I DO, just ignore all that. Thanks for your ears and comments, they are very much appreciated and taken into account accordingly.
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hexane
on 2006-10-18 17:06 [#01989032]
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lol. as amusing as tiffs on this board go, its good to see peace.
what fine lads you are oscillik and dog_belch
don't wanna blow too much smoke up yer coight but 'ambient techno' is very nice track on the ears -much enjoyed the nostalgic aesthetic. well done for a laptop artist (like myself)
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-10-19 12:13 [#01989452]
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Ambient Techno is fucking quality. Without doubt this is your finest music yet. Three times longer and it's a classic. Fucking lovely.
Party like it's... didn't really hit me good. It's OK but a bit middle of the road, anyone with a laptop, can produce.
Fair Light is another stormer. I really love this sort of music. The synth is clipping a lot on my headphones...apart from this it is staggeringly good. I have listened to it on repeat for four.
Continue with this and Grinning Ape could indeed be a future for music which has for far too long been left in the past.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-30 16:46 [#01995459]
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This isn't more spam, I just added new B-Sides to the CD 2 (MP3) single version, clearly these b-sides aren't as good as on CD (MP3) 1 and also lacking is a "remix" by some unheard of studio tea-boy doing his best House impression. And a shit video. Undeterred I foolishly waste my time and potentially yours with
Foxhole on the roof
Operation Susie
Mission Briefs
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-30 17:08 [#01995464]
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Foxhole on the roof. Alright i guess, just doesnt do anything special for me. I like the sawy synth that comes in, but no. Nothing special. I don't wan't to listen to it again.
Operation susie: I really like the beat. I just need more. Seems to rough. The little riff is nice as an intro, but personally (rambling here, bare with me) i'd let the drums kick in after it, and then unleash that magical immortal rich and unforgettable synthline that you have locked up in your soul somewhere. I wouldnt even consider this a "track", but i will consider it to be a fairly promising rough demo.
Mission briefs: the title and the sounds makes me think of Devo, wich is nice. Sort of fun, but nah.
After this so so review, i relistened "ambient techno", just to check if i was crazy for liking it the first time around. I wasn't, it's still an ace track (albeit, it should be longer), and probably some of the best stuff i've heard from you. That and Sea world. It's the 2 tracks, where i've really FELT the music, and what you where trying to do with it.
As a general critique of you'r music, i can see that you're trying to be minimal, but be carefull not to be too minimal on stuff like melody lines and such. Try adding more stuff to the tracks. Just little subtle stuff, that makes it all magical. Like high pitch melody lines on top of the whole deal. It would make it more emotinal. I'm not a native english speaker, so im not capable of expressing exactly what i feel you should do, but i hope you get my drift. And anyway, fuck what i think. Do what you like.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-30 17:09 [#01995465]
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I say "stuff" a lot
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-30 17:16 [#01995471]
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its no what the beat, thats for sure...
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-30 17:17 [#01995472]
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Nothing is
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-10-30 17:32 [#01995473]
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I listened to the first 3, I dont think much of the first one at all, the 1993 has a certain quirky charm i suppose, the 3rd one is nice but its barely even there... i dont think i get grinning ape
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-30 17:40 [#01995474]
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There's not much to get mate, I just wish I'd been The Mover, and these are expressions of my bitterness at having not been.
DirtyPriest you've given a silly old fool far too much ear time, though I am grateful and receptive to your thoughts. I'm just making a racket, I can't compete with people that want to make "music", I hate music, I hate pop music, I hate the avant garde, .. I like the sound of incidental things, and that's it, punto.
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uviol
from United States on 2006-10-30 17:48 [#01995477]
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Stop belittling your genius you bitter old coot - The Grinning Ape is the future, it's just a matter of which Grinning Ape material is more accessible and comprehensible to we peons :)
By the way, I practically cheesed myself when I saw the new B-sides posted, these will be listened to and feedbacked on (sounds dirty, actually) in the very near future.
(P.s. I got my CD burner back so watch that mailbox.)
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