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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 15:30 [#01987049]
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all by imaginary fantasy (not by me)

This is some of the best melody composition I have ever
heard- sort of videogameish music.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 15:37 [#01987050]
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completely bizarre, i like it


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-10-14 15:41 [#01987051]
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They're good. But not as good as THIS.

This for me is some of the best melody composition I have
ever heard- sort of videogameish music.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 15:43 [#01987052]
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I challenge anyone to try and make similarly
entertaining/intricate melody in this basic style and upload
it somewhere; I'd guess only orange dust and a couple others
could. He definately knows what he's doing. Or give me an
idea how to do it.

I have more I can upload. His titles are perfect. "the
lonely toothbrush" sounds EXACTLY like a lonely toothbrush,
and so does penguin love. :)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 16:01 [#01987056]
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That was good, especially with the fast note part, but I
guess more linear and a litttle easier to emulate probably.


I have no idea how to arrange that many notes together,
especially as effortlessly as he does, and not have it sound
like shit. It's usually obvious he has some chord "bass"
going, but not so obvious in piso mojado.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2006-10-14 16:04 [#01987057]
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Effortlessly!?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 16:16 [#01987059]
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Well the album had 32 tracks and this whole thing was just a
side project of his main artist which I think was 'wishper'
which I didn't really like. He also said he sometimes thinks
of a title (the lonely toothbrush) then actually makes the
composition fit the title- that requires knowing what you're
doing because it evolves in a particular direction rather
than just ending up with whatever emerges- anyway they all
sound "melodically correct" and it seems he makes it way
easier than I can make something 1/8th as complex.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-14 16:22 [#01987060]
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hahaha, this is awesome!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-14 16:29 [#01987061]
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sounds like keyboard demo songs

awesome keyboard


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 16:40 [#01987063]
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Actually, I listen to keyboard demo songs too and am
mystified by their construction. There is some sort of basic
easy way to compose such music/melody/chords apparently but
I'll never figure out what it is.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-14 16:47 [#01987067]
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Em, Am and D for sad songs and G, A, D for happy songs


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 16:50 [#01987068]
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can you define specifically what those are (chords,
scales/etc)


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-10-14 17:05 [#01987071]
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this guy does it waaaaay
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. one of my fav.
artists.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 18:46 [#01987088]
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mishufantasy was my favorite. Those are good w/ some
intricate parts. It's mostly the obvious better sound
quality but simple sound quality is part of imaginary
fantasy's charm.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-14 21:12 [#01987119]
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chords.

the small m means "minor," and a minor scale goes from its
base note (let's say A) and up from there by (in halfnotes)
2 1 2 2 1 2 2 (which gets you back to A via only white
keys). The intervals are the same for any minor scale. The
minor chord is the root note (Am, root = A) plus (halfnotes
again) 3 & 7 (both counting from the root). A major chord
usually has no extra signifier, but you can get stuff like
Dmaj or D[a triangle I think], etc. A major chord starts at
its root (let's say C) and goes up by 2 2 1 2 2 2 1, and
you're back at a C via only the white keys. A major chord is
the root plus 4 & 7.

I may have done some errors that I will correct when sobber


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 22:25 [#01987149]
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so, say on keyboard demo songs that are in c major, which
starts at c and is white keys only...
do these songs typically only play white keys? Thus the only
chords they can play with a (root & 4 & 7 structure) is ceg,
fac, gbd- because any other root note in c major would
result in a chord with a black key.

"Em, Am and D for sad songs and G, A, D for happy songs"

I'll ignore the minor scale now because the major is already
confusing enough for me.

So the "D" you mentioned (with root & 4 & 7) should be:
D, F#,A

it has a black key so should it not be included in a piece
in c major? Or do typical keyboard demo songs have all kinds
of chords with black/white keys etc even if in c major?

Can an imaginary fantasy type of track be made with only
white keys? bla


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-14 22:42 [#01987152]
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Also... watch
this

This is twinkle twinkle little star and I assume (for all I
know) it is in c major- and sure enough only white keys are
used in this song.

But, the chords used in this song are as follows:

c,e,g (root & 4 & 7)
c,f,a (root & 5 & 9)
b,f,g (root & 6 & 8)

So only the first one has the 0,4,7 you mentioned. Therefore
it is the only "major chord" of those 3? Do the other 2 have
a name?... I don't see any logical reason why these 3 chords
are chosen, other than they all have only-white keys. I
think the guy in that youtube said those chords are
significant in some way in music but I don't think he said
why.


 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-10-14 22:43 [#01987153]
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yuo should see how bizzare i am


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-15 03:36 [#01987179]
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I'll do this first

first of all you don't need to play the notes in rising
order.. cfa is kind of like F with the C below instead (put
it above and you get the F as root and 4 & 7) of above and
bfg is Fm with the B below; you only have to use the notes
in the chord, and you're not bound to any particular order.

also, even if you have a song in Cmaj, you aren't restricted
to using only major chords (and just because a song goes in
some scale, that doesn't mean you can't go outside it ever);
Am, for instance, is Cmajs parallel tone scale (I only know
the norwegian word, so that probably isn't the correct
technical term), so in a Cmaj song you can use Am, Dm, etc,
without it sounding weird.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-15 08:25 [#01987234]
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Isn't that a remix of an old Enya song?


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-10-15 10:45 [#01987267]
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ive started my 2nd 8bit/chiptunish album and i've gone all
out and just tried to make real poppy dance music. about
pirates

same ien but more basic sounding. and worse muscial skills.
New Voyage


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-10-15 10:53 [#01987273]
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Yes. And its awesome. The guy remixed a load more of them
too, but I can't remember the link to his site :(


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-10-15 10:54 [#01987274]
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Haha, thats great. I love it.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-15 10:56 [#01987276]
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awesome, this is quite helpful. I now understand why cfa is
0,4,7.

So all you have to remember is:
0,3,7 (minor chord)
0,4,7 (major chord)

And these are the ONLY chords allowed (only triple note
chords anyway)? Even though you said you CAN go out of scale
in, say, "c major", do typical keyboard demo songs ALMOST
ALWAYS only use notes of chords in that scale only (white
keys only for c major- you said a minor is the equivalent
but I think I'll ignore that for now). So... they would
still choose only 037 or 047's, but only use resulting
chords that have only white keys?

What seems stupid to me is that (I havn't tested it) but you
can probably choose just about any 3 white keys and then
find that they satisfy the constraint of 047 or 037 (using
any of the 3 notes as the root). (e + f would never work
because they're right next to eachother). Therefore one
might as well choose any 3 white keys at random (in c major
scale) as opposed to bothering with whether they are 047 or
037, because they probably are in some way..


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-15 10:59 [#01987279]
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If you use the autochord function in fruityloops, you can
make all kinds of complex musical sequences. (Whether they
are are any good is down to your talent of course.)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-15 11:05 [#01987281]
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whoa, I'll have to try that.. maybe that's what orange dust
does.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-15 11:10 [#01987287]
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Hell yeah, you definately know "music theory" or something.
That was great. It wouldn't sound the slightest bit out of
place in a real old school nintendo game. Is it pretty easy
for you to make stuff like that and can you make something
equally good using only white keys from the c major scale?
(you're also using 0,4,7 or 0,3,7 chords only?).. then have
the melody only use notes of the current chord?

Do you start composing w/ chords or melody first usually?


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-10-15 12:04 [#01987315]
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mm dont know really. i know limited piano thoery but most of
it just comes out pretty randomly. I force all the melody
out of me for this project. its all really basic stuff with
some fancy trills flung over it. trying to be a bit tr00 ill
use monophonic arpegs to get that ultra slick c64 sound.
there'll be bum notes someplaces im sure but it sounds ok!
and i have to think about the pirate element as well.

dunno chords then just stick crap over it. whoo!


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-10-15 12:09 [#01987317]
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/these are quaintly superb little tracks.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 10:38 [#01997630]
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5 more added at the link at the top:

Legend of the Incredible Geese

Little Timmy Fights the Angry Dragon

Red Spider

Turtles Eating Popsicles

The Lonely Toothbrush


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-04 12:43 [#01997679]
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no, there are lots and lots of chords you can use, and the
way you name them depends more on the scale of the song than
the actual notes in them... and some chords have noes right
next to each other like E and F.. you can do E+F+A and
that's a chord.. hell, E+F in itself is a chord.. I don't
know what it's called, but it's a chord. Bb+Eb+F+G, for
instance, sounds nice.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-04 14:42 [#01997718]
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That is fucking annoying.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-11-04 14:54 [#01997719]
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i think its shite


 

offline funkadil from United States on 2006-11-04 16:34 [#01997742]
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This is all crap. The first guy is alright but nobody does
it in a very interesting or fucked up manner as well as I do
it. Well, not that I have yet heard on the internet.......


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 21:59 [#01997793]
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Yeah, isn't it great you guys? :D


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 22:11 [#01997794]
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Ok... then that 047 shiznit has no significance, or maybe
047's are just one type of a wider varitey of chords. It
seems like playing in the major scale is no different than
playing chromatic.

What I don't get is playing 'bass' chords in the left hand I
guess and making it sound 'right' with the melody of the
right hand... given that any simultaneous notes are allowed
(even e & f), it seems it doesn't matter at all which notes
you play simultaneously with both hands together.. Don't
bother explaining anymore; I just don't get it.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 22:18 [#01997795]
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link 2 ur toons snat 4


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 22:22 [#01997796]
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you can make a musical instrument by putting reces pieces in
a cup and shaking them. this pro tip actually written on the
packaging is just ONE of the many reasons u shood by redse
other than 4 eating.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 22:23 [#01997797]
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man boobs


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-04 22:26 [#01997799]
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Oh, this is all writing.
:10:04
What's writing?
:10:05
Words that stay.
My master told me.
:10:10
"When single shines
the triple sun...
:10:13
what was sundered and undone...
:10:17
shall be whole, the two made one...
:10:20
by Gelfling hand, or else by none. "
:10:24
By Gelfling hand?
Do you know what that means?
:10:27
Wait.
:10:29
This is a piece of the Dark Crystal.
:10:32
- Then that's what my master meant.
- Yes.
:10:35
- I have to put it...
- You have to heal... the Dark Crystal.
:10:38
Prophecy?
:10:40
- Jen, Skekses!
- Stay! Stay! No!
:10:44
Am friend.
:10:47
Stay. Am friend.
:10:49
Prophecy.
Prophecy cause all this trouble.
:10:52
- That prophecy?
- Yes!
:10:54
- That's why Skekses killed Gelfling?
- Yes!
:10:58
Bad mistake.
Skekses afraid, fear Gelfling.


 


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