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offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-07 19:06 [#01967169]
Points: 1970 Status: Lurker



After taking a break from school--being kicked out of High
School some years ago, that is--I've decided to take a
another shot at it and enrolled in college (university, I
suppose, for the English and Euros). Today ends the second
week of courses and I have to say that I feel underwhelmed
about it all.

There is no awe, no aura of enlightenment in the atmosphere.
It seems that I have traveled back in time to my teenage
years of education. I fear that I will still be working
pathetic, manual labor jobs for the rest of my life no
matter the degree I may receive, if any at all. Although,
the left over financial aid will help purchase a car and new
computer among other things, I'll have to pay it all back
since it's a loan.

Is there anyone else who has gone through college/university
only to regret it later?

Does it really make a difference?



 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-07 19:12 [#01967171]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular



it appears to be a mixed bag, but from my experience
university is whatever you make of it - the more you put in,
the more you get out.

however, if the institution you're attending is poor it's
very hard to get anything out of the degree.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-07 20:49 [#01967224]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



That loan will accumulate interest. For me college was
almost exactly as shitty as high school. Maybe only slightly
better only because people were older. In fact, there was an
awesome library there... and quite ironically the whole
institution was basically a thing very much in my way of my
interest in learning by reading books in this library
(by sapping up time with their rediculously pointless
homework/assignments/memorizing crap/etc). It was also
terribly designed time-efficiency-wise because you pretty
much have to have hour or more gaps between classes. I
remember the biology class/teacher/assignments having
absolutely no concept of pedagogy. It was entirely based on
memorizing the names of biological terms... is this a study
of biology or vocabulary/language? Every time tests based on
memorizing (almost all of them) come up, I just use
mnemonics, pretty much ace it (though sapping up my memory
for this redundant purpose) then forget everything soon
since it is indeed useless. Also these biology teachers have
no respect for the very thing they are teaching. Required
animal dissecting, trips to this room upstairs with all of
these animals in very confined spaces like this one poor
snapping turtle or something. I bet if there even is an
evolution course, it is almost entirely based on 'religion
vs evolution'.

The internet and such can so obviously make physical school
obsolete. I still don't know the purpose of teachers when
the people who write the books are the teachers.

You probably at least need a high school diploma for most
jobs (I wouldn't be surprised if many places didn't actually
check up on you if you lied actually). You might want to
base your college around your job only. Figure out/research
your job first; you might not need college.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-07 20:53 [#01967225]
Points: 40066 Status: Lurker



School is for squares.

I personally wouldnt got to a 4 year (or more) college, and
then have to pay loans, that would suck.

If you think you need 4 years, do the Military
or
2 years gets us by just fine.


 

offline -V- from Ensenada Drive on 2006-09-07 21:28 [#01967237]
Points: 1452 Status: Lurker



wMw pretty much covered my opinion of the whole thing. I
spent 5 years in college--3 different colleges and changed
my major 5 or so different times. First college was the best
but I had an insane room-mate and bailed after less than a
week. Second college was this horrible 2 year tech school
where every class started with them teaching how to use the
computer's mouse... even more frightening considering I was
taking required courses for a CS degree. Third college I
spent 4 years at and graduated, but it wasn't challenging at
all, and I don't feel that I got all that much out of it.
Sometimes I think it's my fault that I didn't learn as much
as I could have. I could have gone through all of the
subjects in detail on my own, and researched as far as I
wanted--I also had access to a huge library--but the whole
thing thing was just really depressing. It was difficult to
get interesting classes when I had to worry about taking the
required foundation courses that were completely
uninteresting along with the appropriate classes for my
major so that I could graduate in a decent time frame
(classes were staggered so that you had to take certain ones
certain semestres or you'd get stuck for a year waiting for
part II to come back around). I'm not really sure if I
regret going or not. I do have a degree to add to my resume
(even if it's in something I'm not interested in that much),
but I also have $40,000 in loans to pay back. I'm not sure
it was worth that.


 

offline thatne from United States on 2006-09-07 21:46 [#01967239]
Points: 3026 Status: Lurker



theoretically if i were you and i could
afford tuition and especially room &
board id try to just appreciate it for
the tradition, the architecture, and
the plentiful access to young ladies.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-09-07 22:11 [#01967247]
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The internet and such can so obviously make physical school

obsolete. I still don't know the purpose of teachers when
the people who write the books are the teachers.

There is no awe, no aura of enlightenment in the atmosphere.

It seems that I have traveled back in time to my teenage
years of education. I fear that I will still be working
pathetic, manual labor jobs for the rest of my life no
matter the degree I may receive, if any at all. Although,
the left over financial aid will help purchase a car and new

computer among other things, I'll have to pay it all back
since it's a loan.

That loan will accumulate interest. For me college was
almost exactly as shitty as high school. Maybe only slightly

better only because people were older. In fact, there was an

awesome library there... and quite ironically the whole
institution was basically a thing very much in my way of my

interest in learning by reading books in this library
(by sapping up time with their rediculously pointless
homework/assignments/memorizing crap/etc). It was also
terribly designed time-efficiency-wise because you pretty
much have to have hour or more gaps between classes. I
remember the biology class/teacher/assignments having
absolutely no concept of pedagogy. It was entirely based on

memorizing the names of biological terms... is this a study

of biology or vocabulary/language? Every time tests based on

memorizing (almost all of them) come up, I just use
mnemonics, pretty much ace it (though sapping up my memory
for this redundant purpose) then forget everything soon
since it is indeed useless. Also these biology teachers have

no respect for the very thing they are teaching. Required
animal dissecting, trips to this room upstairs with all of
these animals in very confined spaces like this one poor
snapping turtle or something. I bet if there even is an
evolution course, it is almost entirely based on 'religion
vs evolution'.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-09-07 22:16 [#01967249]
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start a business


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-08 12:00 [#01967492]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



It does seem like it's not forr you. I dabbled in college
this, job that, bit morre education, but it didn't lead
anywherre but back to manual laborr. If you want to make the
verry most of Uni then you have to be therre yearrs and
yearrs and rreally want to be therre at the same time.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:11 [#01967500]
Points: 6474 Status: Lurker



I left after A-levels and have considered going to uni
since, but I like earning money too much. And I hate
"alternative" student culture. I have an okay paid, easy to
do office job, where I manage to save half my wages (until I
move out again of course.) I'm lazy academically as well, I
got a B for english language, but concerning the finer
points of grammar and the history of the language, I have
almost forgotten it all.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-08 12:16 [#01967505]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



Something I can't do, save. I'm always left with nothing,
infact below nothing. I'm in debt.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:45 [#01967522]
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I blew all my money living away from home with students.
I had a cheap lifestyle/low rent but blew all my money on
booze and drugs. I hate being in debt I was £500 overdrawn
when I came back home to live, and that was cleared in a
couple of months.
My trick to save money is just to stay in all the time and
don't spend more than two quid a day on lunch.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-08 12:50 [#01967525]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



I have dirrect debits drraining my account and by the time
I've spent most days of the week drrinking at the pub, I'm
fucked again.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-08 12:53 [#01967527]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



Having said that, I don't carre.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:53 [#01967528]
Points: 6474 Status: Lurker



Yeah, this is why I'm reluctant to go to uni, debts and
shit.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-08 23:01 [#01967816]
Points: 1970 Status: Lurker



Hmm. There doesn't seem to be much to look forward to. But I
think I'll stick it out for at least two semesters. It just
seems to me that if you're not already gifted at something
then maybe college isn't worth it. Maybe I'm intimidate or
something.

thatne - Yeah, lots of young ladies working their tight
asses into all kind of contortions. Oh, god...


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-09-08 23:12 [#01967818]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular



Doing higher education shouldn't be about making more money.
Knowledge is fun by itself. To be honest you'ld have more
laughs and job satisfaxtion being a good plumber.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2006-09-09 06:48 [#01967942]
Points: 1572 Status: Lurker



I like college. Its like putting off your life.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-09 06:54 [#01967944]
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lol
but you/your parents, someone will have to pay later.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-09 06:55 [#01967945]
Points: 40066 Status: Lurker



that being said

drop out of school sell drugs and become a prostitute


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-09-09 07:15 [#01967948]
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there's like different groups of students..

mr brazil: i always assumed you'll get better jobs though.
it's the first thing they look at in your resume


 

offline thodob from Bergen (Norway) on 2006-09-09 08:13 [#01967969]
Points: 2143 Status: Lurker



i have been reading a phd thesis today concerning the
norwegian plastic waste management system and extended
producer responsibility. Awesome


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-09-09 08:28 [#01967976]
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I've been at the university for more or less 10 years.
Finally through, and I know that I'm never gonna regret one
single day.


 

offline Moot from Antarctica on 2006-09-09 18:19 [#01968276]
Points: 169 Status: Lurker



I'm doing a bioengineering major and plan to keep going in
neuroscience.
It'll pay off, but it doesn't have to: it's a passion for
me.

That said, the more time passes, the more college degrees
are required.

It's only as good as you make it.
Get in, get out, get done.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-09-09 19:17 [#01968295]
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oh boy..enlightenment is just a word.
dont stink with it.

ask to yourself.what i want to do? . . what i would like to
do,to make me feel good?
(...afirmate YO MEREZCO TRABAJAR EN LO QUE ME GUSTA...que
nos tienen enseñados a no merecer abundancia siendo libres
de corazon.=)

and then i will got money to make things!! life is easy...
what is my essence?...

i think university is allright,but like in the internet,you
got know how to live it.

it is evident that we lived now in a shadow era,but the
lights keeps ALWAYS on!.

dont reflect your pains in the world or this will gonna put
you down,cos mayority people are afraid and confusing.The
ignorance!!!..heheee

you! do the right thing.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-10 00:01 [#01968382]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



me and my art teacher


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offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-09-10 02:18 [#01968402]
Points: 2440 Status: Regular | Followup to w M w: #01968382



so which one's you?


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-10 08:52 [#01968488]
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lol !!!


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-10 10:05 [#01968524]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



I am one of the crabs in the genital region.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-10 22:09 [#01968781]
Points: 1970 Status: Lurker | Followup to Falito: #01968295



As always Falito, your words are wise. Gracias mi amigo.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 05:31 [#01968878]
Points: 5733 Status: Addict



my total debts will only be about £12000. seems really big
and scary now but with a half-decent job it shouldnt be all
that hard to get rid of. or i can just emigrate and run away
from it.


 


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