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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:36 [#01960742]
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 Since this is a videogame messageboard, I just wanted to  say that this game sucks even though it still goes for 60  bucks and seems to be in demand. This game is for the  snackybear system 2000. My vagina balls hurt. 
 
  
         
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           darkpromenade
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yes
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:40 [#01960746]
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I choose or.
 
  
         
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           optimus prime
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try smearing peanut butter on them.
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:45 [#01960748]
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Thanks for the eag ae. My pet turtle will lick off this  sauerkraut which isn't working. 
 
  SNAPPY!
 
  
         
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           thecurbcreeper
             from United States on 2006-08-27 22:51 [#01960750]
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sorry sir but you are incorrect.
  this game does not suck.
  in fact, it rules.
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 23:01 [#01960754]
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It might be a good basis for a game if it wasn't  needlessly getting in its own way by being 3d, and if more  intricate game rules/elements were added. Or maybe I could  enjoy it if my vagina balls didn't hurt.
 
  Give the finger to rock n roll singer as he's dancing upon your paycheck the sales climb high through the garbage pale sky like a giant dildo crushing the sun
 
  
         
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           BoxBob-K23
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It's simple, but addictive. More damaging to it, though, is  the fact that it's SHORT. This is not a good thing for any  puzzle game. It's not the greatest puzzle game ever, but  those who've played it may consider themselves lucky. 
 
  
         
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           DeLtoiD
             from Ontario on 2006-08-28 00:33 [#01960785]
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< crimson room
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 00:50 [#01960790]
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so called 'puzzle games' generally rule because they don't  limit themselves by putting on a layer of  characters/storyline/etc but just rely on geometric  shapes/behavior/etc.
  My favorite puzzle game for awhile has been 'super puzzle  fighter 2 turbo' for ps1 (on a side note I have to admit the  characters make it more fun)
 
  the only puzzle bobble type game for ps1 I played was  boring/lame.
 
  tetris is good, but shouldn't be hailed as something that  can't be easily topped.
 
  Everyone says Lumines or something is good but I haven't  played it.
 
  'roll away' for ps1 is very good and long, way the hell  better than intelligent qube I think. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 00:55 [#01960794]
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how about portal?
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 01:00 [#01960796]
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I can't figure out how to install fash player in the time of  my attention span to do so. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 01:26 [#01960798]
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how about the movie hypercube?  i recently tried to imagine a fourth dimension going over  the specifics of a hypercube (tesseract), in half  sleepy state i could almost do it. the easiest way is just  to imagine a point and draw in three different directions  and then imagine you draw into a fourth
 
  there's a big thread on imdb about living in a four  dimensional invironment, however i think the people in the  movie just walk around in the 8 3d cubes that are the  'sides' of a hypercube
 
  this is the thread: http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/9860458
 
 
  
         
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           big
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and this is a cool post in it, from some book: Ok. Inhabitants of "flatland" would have trouble imagining a  cube. If you told them it was bounded by six squares, twelve  line segments and eight points, they would say there is no  such figure, and besides, a square can't bound anything,  since it fills 2D space. If you said you generated a cube by  moving a square in a perpendicular direction, they would  tell you there is no such direction. You could show them an  unfolded cube (image shown below), and tell them that these  six squares can be folded up into a cube, with each square  rotating about a line segment it borders on.
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 1.gif
  They would say that there is no way to rotate about a line  segment. You could show them projections of a cube, both  without perspective (image shown below) and with it (the 2nd  and 3rd images shown below).
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 2.gif
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 3a.gif
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 3b.gif
  These last two might confuse them, and lead them to ask why  the one square is sometimes inside the other and sometimes  isn't. You would have to tell them that the one square is  never inside the other, because this is only a projection.  You would probably also have to remind them that all the  oddly shaped quadrilaterals in the pictures were in fact  true squares, with right angles and equal sides. The  Flatlanders would probably be confused by this.
 
  Now what if hyperbeings came to us to tell us about the  hypercube? If they told us it was bounded by eight cubes,  twenty-four squares, thirty-two line segments and sixteen  points, we would say there is no such figure, and besides, a  cube can't bound anything, since it fills 3D space. If they  said you generated a hypercube by moving a cube in a  perpendicular direction, they would tell you there is no  such direction. They could show us an unfolded hypercube  (image shown below), and te 
 
  
         
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           big
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 Now what if hyperbeings came to us to tell us about the  hypercube? If they told us it was bounded by eight cubes,  twenty-four squares, thirty-two line segments and sixteen  points, we would say there is no such figure, and besides, a  cube can't bound anything, since it fills 3D space. If they  said you generated a hypercube by moving a cube in a  perpendicular direction, they would tell you there is no  such direction. They could show us an unfolded hypercube  (image shown below), and tell us that these eight cubes can  be folded up into a cube, with each cube rotating about a  square it borders on.
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 4.gif
  We would say that there is no way to rotate about a square.  They could show us projections of a hypercube, both without  perspective (image shown below) and with it (the 2nd image  shown below).
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 5.gif
  http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig 6.gif
  These last two might confuse us, and lead us to ask why the  one cube is sometimes inside the other and sometimes isn't.  They would tell us that the one cube is never inside the  other, because this is only a projection. They would  probably also have to remind us that all the oddly shaped  hexahedrons in the pictures were in fact true cubes, with  right angles and square faces.
 
 
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:00 [#01960806]
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I saw a flash type thing that tried to visually explain  hyper cubes once.
 
  I actually think there is no such thing as '2d'.. maybe in  another universe but not anywhere in our 3d universe. Ex.  draw a line on the chalkboard and say it is 2d.. well the  chalk particles have a thin layer of 3d mass. Computer  pixels are thin 3d lights, etc.
 
  The same might be true for the supposed 4d, 5d etc.. (I  wonder if 'dimension' has a concrete widely accepted  definition, because some consider time a dimension). Though  wondering about a different universe potentially having a 8d  construction or something is interesting. 
 
  
         
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           Indeksical
             from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:06 [#01960807]
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as any dimensions higher then 3D would be in a form that is  beyond our current capacity to visualise i would think that  it would be impossible to fully define what a dimension is. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:16 [#01960810]
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yea 2d only exists in mathematical theory. you make a good  point, prolly 3d won't really exist in a 4d world. thefore  the people in that movie can't really be there.. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:22 [#01960811]
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some more excellent explanations by biggiesmartypants here: http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/42948570?d=50023 077#50023077
  http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/35766824?d=50019 517#50019517
 
 
 
  
         
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           w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:28 [#01960813]
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but the idea of dimensions at all might be founded on a  false base..  saying 'it was a 2d drawing' or something is  useful in everyday language just to describe the nature of  it (ie on a flat piece of paper with no illusion of 3d) to  someone who couldn't see it or something, but as stated in  previous post a 1d 'point' on a chalkboard is actually 3d  chalk particles, etc.
 
  Stuff floating on top of water generally only move on the  surface (ignoring 3d waves) so it might be useful to think  of them as '2d' but everything that is '2d' is just a thin  layer of 3d. So maybe ONLY 3d exists, which would be a  misleading term since the term 'dimension' would then be  meaningless.
 
  now a flash image of a 4d hypercube... is a thin layer of 3d  on a screen that is thin enough to be defined as  conventionally 2d yet is providing the illusion that it is  4d.
 
  You could almost add something like 'color' as a dimension.  For example when trying to graph a point on a 3d cube, you  could say:
 
  x = 12 y = -6 z = 54
  but then add the 'time dimension' as an extra detailed thing  to graph more specifically.
 
  t = 8:35 pm
  then add color as an extra detailed thing to graph more  specifically
 
  c = green
  In fact maybe you could have, say, a solid red square. You  could define it as 1d because there is only 1 color. Then  make it green and red checkered and say it is 2d, then add  some blue and say it is 3d, etc.  
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:57 [#01960830]
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a point has 0 dimension, a line is 1d a plane 2d
  maybe in 3d a 4d cube can be better represented
 
  
         
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           Indeksical
             from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 03:00 [#01960834]
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a 4d cube cant be represented though because it would be  impossible to see. the fourth dimension is outside of the  limit of our vision because we only see in a three  dimensional way. i.e. you cant see time. 
 
  
         
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           unabomber
             from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-08-28 03:00 [#01960835]
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but you can feel it...
 
  
         
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           big
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a 3d cube can be represented on 2d of a screen or paper.. see here for several 2d representations  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract
 
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:10 [#01960837]
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dimensions are properties we define things as having, not  separate existances which contain the objects we have  defined as having that dimension as a property. 
 
  
         
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           Indeksical
             from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 03:15 [#01960839]
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so we would have to discover this fourth dimension to define  it? if that were the case we would have to be able to know  of the existance of the fourth dimension meaning that our  entire representation of every other dimension would become  null and void wouldnt it? thats would mean we would look at  things in a different way and that the fourth dimensioncould  THEN be represented, but we wouldnt see things in three  dimensions any more.
 
  sorry if this is all rubbish this is a bit over my head!
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:29 [#01960844]
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you can't discover something that doesn't exist, or rather,  if you do so, you are wrong. my point was that the  "dimensions" are something we have constructed, and although  certainly useful at times, it can't be said to be the  objective truth about anything that it exists in three or  four dimensions.
 
  also, disregarding string theory bullshit, the fourth  dimension is defined as time; that something lasts, and in  that sense, everything that has the property of "lasting"  for even more than the smallest amount of time, is something  we can describe in four dimensions. 
 
  
         
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           Indeksical
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thanks mastah i understand a bit better now! is this the  kind of thing you studied? 
 
  
         
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           big
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the fourth dimension is not time, or rather: you can call it  time but then you can call it anything you want like gravity  for instance.
 
  the fourth dimension is theoretical and you can have as many  dimensions beyond that as you want 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:47 [#01960850]
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the fourth dimension i was talking about
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:48 [#01960853]
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yeah.. I study philosophy.
  big: in normal physics and normal everyday life, the fourth  dimension is by standard called time. of course you can fill  in whatever you'd like, and add as many as you want to (as  long as you don't tell people it's the truth and you're just  using it as an ad hoc hypothesis to explain away certain  observational data that don't fit your normal paradigm), but  if you ask a normal person, the fourth dimension will most  likely be time. 
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:49 [#01960854]
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also, it isn't just the fourth dimension that is  theoretical; they all are. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:54 [#01960855]
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calling it time is just philosophy
 
  
         
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           unabomber
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let's call it Norbertus!
 
  
         
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