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beat me and crucify me and ban me and what gives, but "Doubt" was/is something really energetic and nice to listen, and yes it needs a new thread cause i couldn't find a thread about them in the search... ...without comparing them to EMF and i still claim there wouldn't be albums like this without New Order's "Technique". It really changed things in British electronic music after 1988. At least that's what i noticed and read in music magazines as a kid. Brits who obvoiusly know more about electronic music from those times, please discuss. |
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*about BRIT electronic music, SORRY |
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I had "Info Freako" on 12"... I couldn't afford much at the time so I never bought the album. Indie Dance! I much preferred Pop Will Eat Itself. Who were a bit more beery and versatile. But no less reviled by the shit music press. |
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I picked up an album at half price books several weeks ago but I can't remember the name of it, I think it was Doubt actually.. is that the one with 'Right Here Right Now' on it? Naturally that was the only song I recognized.. I am a big fan of this type/era of music, although the album I felt was only so so.. I need to relisten this afternoon perhaps. I like EMF alot though. Dan: What Pop Will Eat Itself stuff should I look into? Several years ago I heard the Fluke remix of one of their tracks and liked it immensely.. (Fluke was my favorite band for much of high school) |
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I think PWEI hit their stride with 1989's "This is the day, this is the hour, this is this", featuring all your favourite hit singles such as "Def Con 1", "Wise Up Sucker" and "Can U Dig it?" with some more introspective album tracks such as "The Fuses Have Been Lit" and "Wake up, time to die" which contains a refrain I often ruefully repeat to myself ("I've felt worse, but I've felt better"). I also like their first album "Box Frenzy" but that's a lot scrappier (in a nice way). 1990's "Cure for Sanity" is good too, more dance poppie. |
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Pop Will Eat Itself - i thought about checking them too, thanks. |
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Jesus Jones "doubt" is the kind of "wow yeah, let's party and forget what music was played" if you treat it that way. for me it's long-lost memory album which suddenly feels great to hear again. that's it. |
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I relistened to it yesterday, and it was much better than I remembered. 'International Bright Young Thing!!!' still looking for PWEI though.. |
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Okay, I think we can all reapraise early nineties indie dance as long as we steer clear of Carter Unstoppable Sex Machine. They were fucking massive, as well. A number one album in 1990, I think. Why were they so popular, Mr dog_belch? You were "there". (So was I, but about 8 years old.) |
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I never liked Carter USM that much, apart from "Sherrif Fatman", and maybe, oh "After the watershed", which incidently had a good b-side "The 90s Revival" coming out, as it did, in.. 1990. But, yeah, no, well, the thing is people that knew more about music than me really rated them so I guess on must look past the crappy image and the fat bloke and dig the music. I don't think it's dated as well as... other things, but then not everything should be.. timeless. Agitprop really, I guess,... issues. I saw them play the night of the Poll Tax riots. Them and Birdland. Whither Birdland, in these revivalist times? |
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hahha 80's great tunes, where are thye now from mtv in the 90's doubt was the shite PWEI were the greatetst, prodigy helped them Carter and the USM had a few songs, dont remember what they were *going to the recycle center, playing Zeros and ONes (aphex twin remixes) E(stacy) M(other) F(ucker) |
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i had one EMF tape but from what i remember - i don't want to hear them again. |
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But their music was just terrible. It sounds like the sort of thing they'd play once on the evening session for a laugh... I really don't get how they were so popular, it's baffling. I remember the poll tax riots, barely. My parents wouldn't pay it, they didn't protest, though. |
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I'm by no means a fan of theirs, but I don't know if they're that bad . They're of their time, I believe. |
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Everybody goes on about My Bloody Valentine, Dinosaur Jr, Ride, whoever, all those early nineties indie bands. But Carter USM are like a dark secret, the mad relative no one likes to discuss, even though they sold shitloads more records than far more credible bands...it's odd. |
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Haha, well it's like the 80s, people go on about "80s music" but there's always a light and dark underbelly, the untold history. I guess like any pop decade. I never liked Carter, probably what puts you off is the same as what put me off at the time. |
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And you're not going to get BOC coming out with "Yeah we dig a lot of music. Jphn Carpenter soundtracks, My bloody valentine, Carter USM and Cud" |
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My mate at work who's about 35 told me "You know what got rid of all that crusty, grebo big pants nonsense? Suede. Don't laugh, after them, studenty type bands had to be proper, big 60's/70's-style, "important" BANDS again. |
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Hmmm, I was a big fan of Suede. I wouldn't put them as being "important", but musically, and, lyrically, well, songwriterererererly, I would rate them. I didn't like big pants, never. |
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I never liked suede, his voice bugged me. I did however enjoy Bernard Butlers solo effort! |
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Oh.ahhh.hoooww.hooowww ooooooh could you possibly be infruriated with his voiiiiiiyyyyce? |
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hahaha |
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I like a few tunes. It's sort of glam with kitchen sink lyrics. I knew a few girls who liked them, right up to about '98-'99, even. But I can see why they were popular, as opposed to a band like Carter. |
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I like fellas with girly singing voices. |
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for some reason I'm now singing menswear! |
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There's never an excuse for that. |
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I just downloaded the first Suede album. It's quite good, for an indie album. Same producer as Pulp's His 'n' Hers. |
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1st Suede : great solo Butler : haven't heard it but i will the tears album : boring |
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Yeah, I really like his "sound", that Ed Buller, he did a great job on those two albums, and some of the singles / b-sides as well. Suede's "High Rising" has that great synthy atmos that he does so well. |
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That "The Tears" is a bit strange, I can't really say I enjoy listening to it that much. The music's like Suede II, but the lyrics are just.. awful, in my opinion, like a Suede parody. There's one song on it I really like "Autograph", which is almost rocking Smiths-y sounding. But other than that... hmm, it's just weird to split up over musical differences and then get back together ten years later sounding exactly like you did ten years ago. |
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Now I remember who I know who liked Suede. A kid who played guitar and really rated Bernard Butler, and was made up when he left Suede 'cause he hated Brett Anderson's voice. And a girl I was trying to poke who really fancied Brett Anderson and though Suede were really cool and mysterious. (Just as well I didn't, we were 14!) |
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THE INDIE THREAD (89-94) |
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there a few good moments on that album and it's good that they got back together , sure, but still - they would sound a lot better NOT splitting up those years ago. the first album shows that buttler/anderson were one of those teams meant to work together. a few good moments on the tears album confirm that too. |
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what happened to that girl ? |
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none of your business. |
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Happy days... Salad, Sleeper, Suede, Stereo MCs, Seam, Slint, Spaceman 3, Spiritualized, Spectrum, Spitfire, Stone Roses, Shamen ... there were others. |
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lesbian ? why lesbian ? :O |
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It's nothing major, I just don't like to talk about it. |
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i'm sorry. ----------------- Spaceman 3, Shamen - i remember reading about those, i need to add them to my to-check list. |
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For the record, I've had somewhat of a change of heart about Jesus Jones since my last disinterested, blase post in this thread. Since this topic came up I relistened to my Doubt tape several times and picked up Liquidizer which is a little bland but conventional standards but still kills me (in a good way). I still think EMF may be better when they're at the top of their game, but EMF is really hit or miss and agonizingly cliche at times, whereas Jesus Jones seems very consistent. But here I go, creating false binaries.. |
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Doubt sounds so good to me after years that i'm afraid to check the other albums in case they might break the spell or something. the strong beat in "who_ where_ why" still sounds FRESHHH.........and 'Stripped', hahahah = carpet bombing and EMF....i have only 'unbelievable' and that weak singer's voice in my mind when i think of them. i can't remember anything else from 'schubert dip' [?] these days. |
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Haha, I know that feeling of wanting to keep a band's image intact.. same goes for seeing pictures of bands you love but never bothered to look up before. Although I can tell you, at least in my humble opinion, that Liquidizer is very good. Then again, I kind of like samey songs.. 'Who where why' is indeed good.. and dated but not hackneyed. I also like "Are you satisfied' and 'International...' a hell of a lot. As far as EMF goes they're really spotty but when they're good they're excellent. I just like their attitude too. From what you said it sounds like you have Schubert Dip.. take a listen to 'Girl of an Age'.. it's one of my favorite tracks in existence. Ahh! |
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