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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 08:27 [#01911159]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker



i love computers.

my own hard drive crashed 2 times because of a failure in
the external hdd case firewire controller. but thanks to
phobia who recommended me getdataback i got most of my files
back.

a month ago i bought my girlfriend a new shiny western
digital (which is meant to make the best disks) drive 250
gigs strong.

so far so good - installed (normally in a tower pc)
configured - everything was going good. was.

my gf needed the disk for movie files because she works on a
movie project in adobe premiere. of course she saved all her
files on the new disk.

i didn't even recommend her backup because i always thought
that the savest place for files is in a simple tower pc
without internet connection. how false.

one week ago my gf calls my histeric and crying that her
data is lost. i thought that she just made some simple
mistake and formated something or similar.

so i went to her and looked at the hdd. seemed okay
everything. the size in windows was ok, physically the disk
seemed alright. but about 20 gigs of files (of course the
most improtant ones - the premiere files, and, what's really
strange - really important txt files and some mp3...) where
completely gone. a few folders completely empty.

i didn't really bother - launched getdataback and...

... and nothing happend - he didn't find ANY of the files
not ANYONE.

i launched getdataback again with differrent options, later
ontrack, later a few other and finally i gave up...

the histeria goes on - 3 months of work fucked + many
scripts, works and other stuff as txt.

i'm sending it to the wd service tomorrow - two weeks of
waiting i think. but i guess they will not bother aobut the
files, erase them, chjeck the disk and send it back or give
me another one.

i love computers


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-06-01 08:35 [#01911163]
Points: 7577 Status: Lurker



He <3's Computers.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-06-01 08:36 [#01911166]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



your gf is shitting you. sheprobably cheats on you and made
you think she was working on that film when in reality she
was out dating other men.

but yes, computers are poo.


 

offline hma from real life on 2006-06-01 08:37 [#01911167]
Points: 528 Status: Lurker



it can`t be.

option 1: the files was not deleted (lost), but just moved
to another location (ctrl-x, ctrl-v)
option 2: someone deleted them using wipe method.

seriously.



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 08:39 [#01911169]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to hma: #01911167



she couldn't use wipe method - if she did i would find them
anyway
if they were moved - i would find them anyway

it has to be a physical destruction of the disk but that
doesn't change the fact that the files probalby are gone
forever


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-06-01 08:42 [#01911170]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



there's also a kex factor in this; girls&computers. it just
doesn't work.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 08:51 [#01911172]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to hma: #01911167



If you move a file, you just change its path. It stays in
the exact same place on the HDD. Unless you move it to
another partition, then you actually copy and delete.

Sadist: WD - normal thing. I guess one of the data recovery
companies can help you, but I don't know the prices

Don't play with WD. If you read that they are the fastest in
some test, just take the second one. Don't buy WD.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-01 08:57 [#01911175]
Points: 5733 Status: Addict



formatting? could have started reformatting the drive?
can you reformat/start reformatting a drive with apps stored
on that drive still running?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 09:02 [#01911178]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ezkerraldean: #01911175



getdataback and ontrack are such programs - nothing...

qrdl - the thing is just - i phoned a popular databack
company and they told me about 1000 dollars the
gigabyte....

but we don't have the money to do this. maybe wd has their
own specialists but i don't know if they actually will try
to find those files.

so what to do ? sue wd ? hell


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 09:06 [#01911179]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker



another interesting fact:

my gf told me that it was like this:

she launched her pc, made a bit on it, it crashed, she
restarted it, some windows error appeared, scandisk launched
- files gone


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 09:33 [#01911196]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01911178



1000$?!?!?! Wow, I was expecting something like 100$.

I don't know what you should do. WD won't even try
recovering the data, that's for sure. I'm sorry, but it
seems you're fucked.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 09:37 [#01911200]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to QRDL: #01911196



i already stopped worying about the data - i rather consider
it lost and later drink myself to death IF they find the
data...

seems like i'll get a new wd disk with a sticker "fuck off"
and life on


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 09:38 [#01911201]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01911200



Exactly. Sell it on allegro and buy something else.
Anything.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 09:48 [#01911208]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to QRDL: #01911201



i don't have to sell it because i can bring it back as it is
still guarateed


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2006-06-01 09:59 [#01911220]
Points: 1000 Status: Lurker



Seagate is the best your mistake was buying a WD try to
exchange for a Seagate.


 

offline edga on 2006-06-01 10:01 [#01911221]
Points: 363 Status: Lurker



never had any problems with western digital drives.

would also second what 01911170 said.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 10:07 [#01911227]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01911208



I mean the new one


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 10:09 [#01911233]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to Vader: #01911220



Remember Seagate Barracuda IV (or III, I'm not sure)? Same
thing.

Maybe try Maxtor.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-06-01 10:14 [#01911242]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular



is Sadist the "Computer Problem Havin-ist" poster at XLT?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 10:19 [#01911246]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to evolume: #01911242



seems like i am. at last one thing that people might
remember me


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 10:20 [#01911247]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to evolume: #01911242



isn't that at least funny ?


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-06-01 10:36 [#01911275]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01911247



it is at least strange and probably also funny.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 13:18 [#01911419]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to QRDL: #01911275



god hates me


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-06-01 13:39 [#01911440]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular



yeah, first problem was buying a wd, theyre notorious for
failing, but normally when a harddrive fails its unusable,
just a few folders missing doesnt really happen due to
physical damage.

which os is she using? if it is winxp or 2000 or anything
using the nt kernel and the harddrive is formatted in ntfs,
deleted files are unretrievable, even with consumer level
data recovery programs.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 13:44 [#01911444]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to hedphukkerr: #01911440



the second part scared me to death... really?

how come i retrieved my data on my ntfs disk on winxp?

can you tell me more about this ? what about fat ?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-06-01 13:45 [#01911447]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular | Followup to sadist: #01911247



haha, it makes your avatar very appropriate.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 13:54 [#01911460]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to evolume: #01911447



lol youre so right... good thinking


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-06-01 14:37 [#01911504]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Followup to tolstoyed: #01911166 | Show recordbag



hahaha :D


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 15:27 [#01911527]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker



i guess my patethic-meter just raised 3 points


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-06-01 16:10 [#01911565]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular



goddamn....


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-06-01 16:55 [#01911603]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to sadist: #01911444



oops, i was a little unclear on that.

in winxp, if a file is lost because some program fucks it up
and deletes, it is still retrievable.

but if a file is deleted and then recycled its gone forever.
ie iTunes decided to freak out on me and delete-recycle in
one go half of my collection, and even after trying data
recovery progs they all said it was gone.

with fat32 as long as there hasnt been anything written over
the data on the physical disk it should still be retrievable
(so if you think you lost something, make sure to
move/create as little data as possible)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-01 23:39 [#01911698]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to hedphukkerr: #01911603



thanks for that!

i guess that scandisk fucked everythign up... i mean when
the pc crashed the files probably where tossed around the
hdd. then scandisk detected them as bad data and
deleted/recycled them.

really the only thing that comes to mind


 


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