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Is XLT an autopoetic system?
 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:02 [#01907809]
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AUTOPOIESIS - The process whereby an organization
produces itself. An autopoietic organization is an
autonomous and self-maintaining unity which contains
component-producing processes. The components, through their
interaction, generate recursively the same network of
processes which produced them. An autopoietic system is
operationally closed and structurally state determined with
no apparent inputs and outputs. A cell, an organism, and
perhaps a corporation are examples of autopoietic systems.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-05-27 07:05 [#01907810]
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yes


 

offline staz on 2006-05-27 07:08 [#01907811]
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nice spelling, jerk!


 

offline xceque on 2006-05-27 07:10 [#01907813]
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If it was, then what?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:12 [#01907818]
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We are not 'persons' or 'personalitys' we are simply systems


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 07:13 [#01907819]
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if it was, then it would be nice if we were profitable


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2006-05-27 07:19 [#01907822]
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ths thrd s wnk


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-27 07:23 [#01907824]
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ban


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:24 [#01907825]
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How about THIS one



 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-27 07:25 [#01907826]
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Why can't a person be a system? Where does the oposition
come from?
What is a person?
Why can't personalicy be a component of a system?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:29 [#01907830]
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Because only the communication communicates not PERSONS


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-27 08:05 [#01907841]
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you as a person are not communicating very well when you say
communication communicates not PERSONS


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 08:07 [#01907842]
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Thats a quote by Niklas Luhmann not me.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 08:11 [#01907843]
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It is a mistake in Luhmann's theory to imagine that minds
or people communicate. Only communication communicates:
“Communication recursively recalls and anticipates further
communications, and solely within the network of
self-created communications can it produce communications as
the operative elements of its own system. In so doing,
communication generates a distinct autopoietic system in the
strict (not just “metaphorical”) sense of the term”
(9). Likewise, communication is unable to produce,
reproduce, transmit, or receive perceptions, which are
operations of consciousness: “Consciousness cannot
communicate, communication cannot perceive” (47).




 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 09:10 [#01907869]
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so we're an system creating poetry autonomously, and
self-maintaining (read: there will always be enough dorks to
fill the board with rubbish)

...Luhmann isadick


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 09:38 [#01907874]
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Poetry? Uhuh...we are not talking about poetry here


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 09:40 [#01907875]
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perhaps we should be


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-27 18:35 [#01908123]
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i think its just the noun / verb confusion again
YOU ARE GETTING CONFUSED BY LANGUAGE U SILLY BILLY



 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-28 07:06 [#01908328]
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XLT is an authoritarian system


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-05-28 07:53 [#01908348]
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planet earth loves you
confusion is sex
monoid the bad vibrations will gonna put you down
i am Falito


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-28 07:54 [#01908349]
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he is falito

OBEY


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-05-28 08:05 [#01908353]
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Have you ever had your own opinion or theory? Sure, I guess
you're a system, with hard drive stocked with books that
your personality'less communications software quotes.
(Mernans, Gwely) [sic]


 


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