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Discuss! (at least see the videos, they are hilarious) |
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you call it poison, we call it progress. |
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what the hell |
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is this for real? |
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yes... unfortunately... read more on the background of the campaign |
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kan du linke artikkel direkte? |
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so.. then they want us to believe that what politicians want to ban is exhaling and natural co2 production? surely, the last time I checked, it was about excess and environmentally damaging releases of the stuff... It seems people who defend pollution are prone to using weird arguments for their cause... I was at a debate where some economy professor argued that "our environment is the best it's ever been; people are living longer than they were ten years ago!" (meaning he's confusing stuff like medical technology, health inspections of food sources, etc with environment). |
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wrong article... *-) |
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The page does not exist any longer. Please note that international news articles are available for 90 days only. but ok.. this seems like something "they" could do... |
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looks like the whole wbcsd page is down... |
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yes, they want to make us believe its very costly, people gonna lost their job etc. They just consider business economy costs and not social economy assessments... and i believe a change in the energy infrastructure, just would generate new kind of jobs and room for a lot of new innovation. |
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well, it's true that there probably will be fewer jobs in a transition period, but what I reacted to is that they're portraying it like someone wants to prohibit breathing and that lowering co2 exhaust will kill all the forests... |
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yes, there was no living organism before we start burn fossil fuel |
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Indeed: Man was a silisium based life form before that. |
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disgusting. |
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co2 isnt actually poisonous. it doesnt react with haemoglobin so you wont suffocate if you breathe it in |
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nobody's talking poison. they're talking damaging to the environment. |
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co is poison, though, right? |
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no |
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carbon monoxide? sure it is! |
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CO is. it phux u up. co2 keeps the atmosphere from being stone cold |
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ok sorry i thought the lack of a "2" was a typo soz <3 |
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CO is a narcotic(relaxing) affect and it would choke you... (CO2 has many of the same affects...) |
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no it doesnt! CO2 is much more inert whereas CO is violently reactive. CO reacts with your blood haemoglobin and screws u up, CO2 just sits there and does fuck all |
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no life without CO2. they have a good point, but that doesnt make burning all fossil fuels into the atmosphere a good thing. in one version of an ideal world, agricultural crops are harvested for ethanol/ fermentation, or . The plants fix CO2 from the atmosphere using solar energy, microorganisms (yeast, bacteria) turn it into alcohols and we drive our cars with it, making new CO2 for the plants. i agree with those movies, to a certain point. i think people in general just yell NOOOO WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE if they hear 'carbon dioxide'. |
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yes!!! i would vote for you |
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please throw unverified nonsense around. inhaling CO2 definately does more than fuck all. |
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yeah, there are lots of interesting things to do besides burning oil. too bad theres such a huge lobby in the USA (at least im suspicious of that) who rather drill for oil in poor middle east countries. but when the end comes, we're not lost. |
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ha, didnt actually know it actively had a negative affect. |
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yes, i agree! there would always be CO2 and we are not going to die because of it, it would just be very very expensive to avoid disasters and saving human lifes. But hell yeah, why should older generations care? Its us young who have to pay the bill i 2050.. |
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yes, its much cheaper to start a war to secure the energy supply, than increase the efficiency in the system... or? |
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hahaha, sure lets fight the fucking world for oil! in fact these things im jabbering about are ancient, butanol fermentation has been intensively researched during the oil crisis and during WO II (i think). There are already some biomass liquefaction plants running, theres a commercially operating plant turning turkey waste into diesel. bah the world sucks, and in one persons life you cant make much of a difference.. but every little bit helps. |
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i heard they run cars off ethanol in brazil - never been bothered to follow it up. sounds like a good idea |
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yes, off the top of my head 50% of the countries fuel economy runs off ethanol fermented from sugar cane. Downside is the loss of biodiversity, the country is riddled with sugar fields so no more diverse vegetation. They drive these funny dual fuel cars that run on gasoline and ethanol, so you can buy whichever is cheaper also from what ive heard, brazilians are rather stupid so they lack the trading skills to export this technology abroad. what a load of cack. wow im really rambling on tonight. im doing something about renewable energy sources for uni.. |
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there is also those kind of plants (feedstock recycling) plants in germany. But expensive and not the most environment friendly solution to the waste problems (but better than landfilling..) |
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Yes, biodiesels are also coming to europe now.. |
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oh, wait, right.. you're some sort of fossil person! I just want to know (if you know, that is) if that professor could somehow have backed up his claims (that our environment today is better than it's ever been) or if your sediment thingies show otherwise if those things show anything like that at all and if that's really what you do. I may be confused. |
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there's some stuff like that going on in sweden too... I can't remember exactly, but they used lots of their garbage for creating fuel of some sort for some hybrid-ish cars that run off both that fuel and gasoline.. I think they may have some thing going with wood... |
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Zeng? |
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THE BORG!!!!!!! |
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You know, there's no absolute proof that human activity is causing global warming. It's only one among several competing hypotheses. |
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