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Several times now, I've read about Aphex, Luke Vibert, etc and their analogue gear, and how they picked it up "back in the day" when it was much cheaper than it is now. I've been making electronic music for about 10 years now, and in all that time analogue gear has always been expensive. It's possibly a little cheaper now (probably because there are so many analogue-modelling softsynths), but it's still expensive. I assume that, in the 1980s, when most of this gear was made and was "cutting-edge" it was also fairly expensive for the time. So, when exactly did these guys buy it cheap? When was this gear at a low price, and how much did it cost? I guess it would have been during the late 80s, when analogue was being replaced by digital synths and before techno became "mainstream". Did anyone buy any gear back then? How much did it cost? |
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The x0x's became cheap after they failed the market at first. Then the ghetto producers started buying them 'cause they were dirt cheap. Eventually they became expensive as techno/electro/house evolved and became popular. |
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i am a fashion victim |
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Yes, I remember seeing graph of 303 advert prices from 82-2002 and they never really were particularly cheap. However, presumably there was a time when they were neither brand spanking new, nor had they yet become iconic. In particular, in pre internet days, some people had no idea of their value and hence you might find the odd 303 selling for £50, from some guitar bloke who bought it to use as a bass accompaniment, but never got into it. But it's not like that was ever the "normal" price, as far as I can tell. |
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a lot of synths are cheap now, if they are unpopular ones and only appeal to people who know how to use them |
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let us know two of this synths 0+0- |
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they started getting pricey around 93/94 I think it was |
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digital/midi first larged it around 83 hence explosion of electro/techno from house and funk everyone thought the old difficult analog gear was over and wanted the new fm synthesis and presets and sampling and mental new stuff like that, everything has it's own unique qualities tho at the dawn of idm a 101 cost 75-125 quid and a 303 the same roughly. an 808 was 200 quid and a 909 was 350. personally i just sing and play the spoons. |
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back in them days it was all good. Now, the older it gets, the more expensive it is, with some exceptions... Like, i saw a 909 being sold for 125 euro's a few days back :C and i missed it ! |
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Where did you see that?! |
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So does anyone know of any synths/drum machines that are unpopular (and hence cheap) at the moment, but that are still "worth getting"? |
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marktplaats.nl :C |
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it was actually some old fart who's wife found it in the attic, wich he claims it was something probably "from his young, and wild years". I feel so sad :C |
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Come on! I want your tips.... .... what hardware that's cheap now is going to be worth loads in a few years time? |
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I think the ER-1 is cheap/available cheap for what it is. There are a fair few of them about and they're still made, so lack the investment quality of an x0x, but if all you're interested in is using them, they're great. I'm actually planning on getting a second one when I have a bit more cash spare; a total of 8 synthesised drum sounds that way. |
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Ah right, if it's an investment you want, forget the ER-1. |
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Well, it doesn't HAVE to be an investment. Investments would be interesting, or simply useful but cheap instruments, like the ER-1 you've mentioned :) |
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You can get all kinds of digital second hand gear from the 80's for little to no money. I'm talking synths, samplers etc. |
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I reckon if you wanted an investment, an absolutely mint 303 with carry case, original PSU, manual, box etc, or more cheaply, a mint 101, put in an attic for years would be one of the best. As more and more break down (or even just deteriorate visually; e.g. blue sh-101s colour fades if left in the sun) the remaining ones prices will go up and up. Also, as analogue modelling gets better and clones/VSTs get more and more accurate (already plenty of proper musicians are shelving 303s for audiorealism bassline) it's only going to be real collectors who will still pay those sort of top dollar prices for them and then, like toy classic cars are now, a mint boxed & manual one will go for vastly more (x10+) than a tatty well used example. |
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He's right you know. You could consider investing in a "future classic" rather than something that's already worth lots. Cheaper, so you can cast your net further and buy a dozen or so machines in good nick and hopefully at least one will become desirable. Just befriend the Warp allstars and get them to name-drop the bits of gear you have in interview in 10 years time and everyone will be chomping at the bit to pay way over the odds for them. ;) |
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me too...i want to know |
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There was a brief time when the TR-909 was impossible to sell here in Sweden. It (still) had analog drum sounds mixed with sampled sounds, when the competition was all digital. Then of course it became the only techno drums worth owning and prices started picking up. I guess you had to be here in 1985-89 to pick one up cheap. It could've been an even shorter time period. Too bad I didn't get my copy of White Room until 1991 and by then it was too late. The KLF explained to me what 909 and 808 meant. To some degree 303 too. |
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i think here nobody knows -but is fun read em |
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If you look on ebay regularly you will see 80s synths and drum machines that you've probably never heard of selling for well under £100. I think that is cheap. |
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A lot of analogue gear is still cheap. Altho I guess that depends on what you consider cheap. I would say under $500 is cheap, and there is still a lot of great sounding analogue synths for under $500. If your talking about things like CS80's or Jupiter 8's and shit, I doubt those will ever be cheap. |
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I figure this thread would be a good place bring up this. |
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