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offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-04-26 22:31 [#01887788]
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I have come to the conclusion that vegans are insecure.
Yes, no?


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-04-26 22:51 [#01887791]
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I'm toying with the idea of becoming a vegan....... does
that make me unsure of being insecure?

Have a great day!


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-04-26 23:16 [#01887792]
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insecure about their health.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-04-26 23:35 [#01887797]
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I'm not vegan, but leaning towards a vegetarian. I don't eat
much meat anymore and I'm starting to eat alot more organic
foods. I'm pretty w/e about it, so when I went to a vegan
buffet with some friends of friends, I saw how zealous the
'vegan' culture is. It was funny actually, felt like I was
in some interactive movie about stereotypical hippies.

I'm glad I don't get too far into these kinds of things. I
love anime but I don't go to the cons, I love nature but I
don't get up at 4am and chain myself to a tree, I love
healthy eating but I don't exchange facts between my vegan
brethren at a buffet about how gogi berry yoghurt is great
for the skin and valerian root tea revitalizes the bladder.
Fucking geeks!


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-04-26 23:38 [#01887798]
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as a chef i cant comprehend anything less than a carnivorous
diet


 

offline Aphexisatwin from your mom's room (United States) on 2006-04-27 05:41 [#01887875]
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I hear that


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-27 05:59 [#01887880]
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i dont understand why they object to dairy products.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-27 10:47 [#01888143]
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Cause the cow needs to be pregnant to produce milk.
So not only are the cows confined to a life of child birth
ALL THE TIME, the baby cow usually is tied by the ankles
with rope and trapped in a small space to make veal.

There is a by product of cheese call RENNET. It is used to
coagulation the cheese.

RENNET is an enzyme that is scrapped off the inside layers
of a cows stomach.

YUM NACHOS!!!!

BELIEVE ME, Vegans and Vegetarians arn't throwing away the
convinence of not eating meat for no good reasons. I know
the stupid belief pusher left wingers can be a bother, but
really it's all a very good idea.

Did anyone see that BSE documentary that David Suzuki host?
Bluck!!! Cow brains. Ewwww


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-27 10:53 [#01888155]
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MEAT!!!!!



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-04-27 11:38 [#01888217]
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WHAT THE MEAT?


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-04-27 11:39 [#01888219]
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hahaha


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-04-27 11:39 [#01888220]
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I'm not insecure. :(


 

offline staz on 2006-04-27 12:44 [#01888286]
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let's overanalyze a choice on the internet, guys


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-27 12:47 [#01888288]
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<3


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-27 12:48 [#01888289]
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do you realise how often you post that "hey guys _____ on
the internet" shit?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-27 12:49 [#01888290]
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hey guys on the internet!


 

offline ToXikFB on 2006-04-27 12:50 [#01888291]
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hey guys i'm on the internet!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-27 12:52 [#01888293]
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WATCH OUT!!!


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-27 12:53 [#01888294]
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what ??? ?? ?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-27 12:53 [#01888295]
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OH MY GOFD


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-27 12:53 [#01888296]
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ENEMAS!


 

offline ToXikFB on 2006-04-27 12:54 [#01888297]
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:o


 

offline ToXikFB on 2006-04-27 12:55 [#01888298]
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:O


 

offline staz on 2006-04-27 13:49 [#01888316]
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hey guys let's point out stupid shit on the internet


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-27 14:50 [#01888343]
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hey he just did it again!


 

offline staz on 2006-04-27 14:51 [#01888344]
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this thread just became very confusing


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-04-27 21:32 [#01888498]
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Vegans are either doing it for 1) health reasons, or 2)
'compassion'. Both of these are just to make themselves
feel better really.

1) Health Reasons is obviously false. It's completely a
psychological thing. You say "ohh I felt soo much better
when I went vegan". Better than what? I feel fine all the
time and I never get sick. Should I stop eating dairy and
meat? No, it's not that their health is poor, it's that
they are psychologically insecure and focus on their bodies
too much; it's all in their head; placebo.
And you can't argue that it's the way we are meant to eat
(biologically). Think of herbivores. They have multiple
stomachs and stand around grazing all day. Plant matter
inherently has less nutritional value and energy and is
harder to digest. You can attribute your big brain and lean
athletic body to the fact that we are carnivores. If you
want to stand out in a field all day, be my guest.

2) I would guess most of the reasons for this is based in
spiritual and religious belief, which is by definition an
insecurity. Please keep in mind that 'empathy' was evolved
as a way to increase the collective fitness of organisms
with similar genes; i.e. other humans.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2006-04-27 21:59 [#01888503]
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Why do you care about the dolphin? Do you know him? Does he
call you at home? Do you have a dorsal fin?

To train the dolphin, you must think like the dolphin. You
must be
getting inside the dolphin's head! Just yesterday I'm asking
Snowflake… "Ee, eee, eee?" He said, "Eee, eee, eee, eee."
And
you can quote him.

but seriously mappattazee, you are better than every vegan
ever.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2006-04-27 22:31 [#01888510]
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A world without sausage is a world I dont want to live in.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-04-27 22:41 [#01888511]
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i was a vegan for a year

dropped from 150lbs (5 feet 11 inches tall) to 115 pounds
... wasnt working out too well, i thought every day that i
was gonna die



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offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-04-28 02:44 [#01888562]
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a) If people are ok with (themselves obviously) eating meat,
then only high-faluting double standards will prevent an
introduction of a human-based corollary diet. War should
lead to a wholesale consumption of the other people's meat.
Otherwise it's a waste of time and blood. Had people eaten
one another at Dresden or Berlin... *sigh*

I would not oppose the eating of human meat (or, for
example, only Algerians) - or, more precisely, I would not
go bombing such people's industries, just as today I won't
go bombing the various death-based industrial plants,
plantations and concentration camps. So, Hannibal Lecter,
vampirism, and various South American cannibal tribes are
neutral in my books.

b) Genetically speaking, and you should know this folks
(what with only a few percentile differences amongst
thousands of species), the argument to proximity and
sharedness is only valid if you consider the fact that for
long people only cared about their own little clan.
Civilization is nothing if not the expansion of the realm of
care (to nations, continents, humanities, ecosystems). It is
true that empathy has clear advantages in natural selection.
That's because EVERYTHING does. The good and bad, Hitler and
Elvis. Natural selection has no moral standards, merely
survival. Natural selection doesn't "tend towards" anything
(not brutal, caring or beautiful), since it is perfectly
objective a measure. Thus, various "green" methodologies are
nothing but methodologies of survival, and apt ones at that
- which is proven by their popularity.

c) Health is a side issue for most (except petty bourgeois
wanna-be assholes), but a case can be made for such a diet's
healthiness - or, more precisely, at an average carnivorous
diet's unhealthiness. Negation of toxicity (carcinogens,
saturated fats, excessive protein intake, excessive carb
intake) can lead to a better regulated metabolism just by
itself. Not to forget the essential vitamins, minerals and
oils that one comes to appreciate on the way. Choose well.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2006-04-28 02:48 [#01888564]
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when you eat a person let me know what it tastes like.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-04-28 05:08 [#01888629]
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yes, that goes forr lots of things.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2006-04-28 10:03 [#01888794]
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I dont eat meat because I dont think I have an interesting
enough personality, so I develop habits that make me seem
more interesting.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-04-28 11:08 [#01888864]
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how are vegans insecure? that doesn't make one bit of sense.
please elaborate.

i think your mom is insecure.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-28 12:13 [#01888916]
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Mappatazee, you are right it is a psychological choice.

"Health Reasons is obviously false."
The health benefits inherent to being Vegan or Vegetarian
are surprisingly very high in number. There are numerous
articles to be found on the internet for you to read
opposing your thoughts. Let them be the one to burst your
bubble not me ļ

The issue of "people being vegan for health issues" isn't as
ridicules as you may think; you can easily find disorders
that prohibit a person to cut meat out of their diet. In
fact
You would be surprised with the amount of people that where
not eating meat IS a physical choice.

BUT on the other sides of the coin, if you lack the IRON and
PROTIEN needed to ¡Kwell ¡K LIVE, then you are fucked. And
guess where Iron and Protein are found? Not in celery. There
are health issues that come along with being vegan as well.


You are right it is a psychological choice.



 

offline staz on 2006-04-28 12:21 [#01888924]
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i eat meng


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-04-28 17:59 [#01889064]
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Show me


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2006-04-28 18:15 [#01889081]
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if they are insecure, it maybe more of a byproduct of choice
considering they all weigh 4 stone and have trouble lifting
up a pillow


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-04-30 00:28 [#01889777]
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"I would guess most of the reasons for this is based in
spiritual and religious belief, which is by definition an
insecurity."

wow, insightful.................. please, tell us more.



 


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