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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 06:03 [#01884591]
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The move date fast approaches and i still feel like I am making little progress language-wise. I have just started to learn to read and write in Japanese, it's surprisingly easy to read because it sticks in your head with the pictoral reference. Mind you, i only know about 60 Kanji and there are 1942 you need to know to read a newspaper so I am a long way off.
I was just wondering if anyone here spoke Japanese and could offer some learning tips and advice. I don't wnat to move there completly ignorant of the language like alot of people, who do what i am going to do, seem to do.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-22 06:19 [#01884618]
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my housemates doing it at uni. ill ask him when he gets back from work and post any tips i can.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 06:23 [#01884624]
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cheers :)
I wish i had opted to do a language instead of just Philosophy, too late to complain now i graduate in July. hehe
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 06:56 [#01884668]
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just tell everyone "nanda baka?"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 06:56 [#01884669]
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are you doing a graduation paper? if so, what's it on?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 07:09 [#01884683]
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baka means stupid and i dont know what nanda means (nan means what)
no i am not writting a paper luckily, although i ahve one two hour exam onn aristotle left (13th of may) which should be shit lol
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staz
on 2006-04-22 07:13 [#01884686]
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manuke
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 07:22 [#01884693]
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グラント デス
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 07:55 [#01884716]
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I'm writing a paper on Aristotle right now.. it's starting to go a bit silly, though...
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:03 [#01884720]
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what aspect of aristotle, i havent decided which question do. I have a choice of the following:
1. Aristotle's metaphysics is a clear improvement on Plato's metaphysics. Discuss.
2. What is Aristotle's distinction between primary and non-primary being? How important is this distinction for Aristotle's conception of metaphysics? Is it a good distinction?
3. What candidates might there be for the role of primary being? Which does Aristotle choose and why? Is his position a good one?
4. What is eudaimonia and why should we aim for it?
5. Outline and critically evaluate Aristotle's doctrine of the mean.
6. Do human beings have a function? Outline and critically assess Aristotle's argument for a positive answer to this question.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-04-22 08:05 [#01884721]
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Why are you moving to Japan anyways?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:09 [#01884723]
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I am going to teach English. I am really going to learn Japanese properly, but the best way to get there is to get a job for one of the evil corporations tecahing English. That way you get an apartment, visa, and income, all sorted before you even Land.
Alot of people go out there and don't really learn Japnese or Kanji etc. Supoosedly thats why most Gaijin (foriegners) are considered ignorant and rude. Hopefully i will be good enough to at least ask people to help with my Japanese.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-04-22 08:11 [#01884724]
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That sounds cool! I wish I could do something like that. Best of luck to you.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:13 [#01884725]
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haha everyone says that. It's real easy. You just need a degree (to get the VISA) and well that's about all you need. Getting a job with the big corporations is as easy as simply making teh effort to show up for the 3 day interview and doing exactly as they say (not thinking for yourself is the key to passing the interview).
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 08:16 [#01884728]
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I'm doing ethics vs happiness and problems/advantages of using his ethics today... #4, #5 and #6 of yours are partly in my paper... they're all good fun, though.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:17 [#01884731]
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yeah i was thinking fo doing a question on the ethics as its far less complex than the metaphysics :/
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-04-22 08:38 [#01884748]
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i'll learn japanese one day, after hindi and italian.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:38 [#01884749]
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I've ehard hindi is really easy. Thats what i have heard at least.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 08:42 [#01884750]
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with the ethics, though, you have to discuss the metaphysics to clarify shit.. with the metaphysics you don't need to mention the ethics... but yeah ethics is more fun.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:43 [#01884752]
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yeah but you dont have to go into great detail of the metaphysics.
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-04-22 08:46 [#01884754]
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hindi doesnt look easy at least, but the words are easy to remember tho, easy sylabics. but for now my book to learn is getting dust, i have to blame work and laziness. :P
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:48 [#01884755]
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yeah i should ahve finisahed my instant japanese course by now and been going over the more advanced course but i stoppe dofr a while.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 08:59 [#01884762]
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I recently bought the lonely planet - Japan book. I figured it would be useful when i do finally find out wher ein Japan i am going to be sent. The book has bloody rail maps, customs, prices, resturaunt phone numbers. Pretty impressive :D
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-04-22 11:38 [#01884865]
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I'm afraid I can't respond with a straight face as long as you have those freaky kids in your avatar.
I took a one year not-so-intensive course, which left me with a thorough grasp of hiragana, a shallow grasp of katakana, and a meager grasp on kanji.
At least I'm now in a position to learn as I go; getting started is the toughest part.
As far as Aristototle's concerned, just do something outrageous... The way those questions are put is usually an invitation to either a) write yet another bland "here's what I've read", or b) alternately to write a dazzlingly unique "here's what I think". Lest you try, they won't know how good you are.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2006-04-22 11:42 [#01884867]
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Try yesjapan.com You have to pay but its cheap as I recall and I found their lessons to be very useful.
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uzim
on 2006-04-22 11:44 [#01884868]
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"getting started is the toughest part."
> i guess it depends on the person, the matter etc, but that's so wrong for me. : |
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 11:55 [#01884872]
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ive watched alot of the previews of the George and Kieko show, it looks great. skype lessons etc. all seems cool. Not sure i can afford it mind you, cheap as it is i ahve to save for my flight and first months rent for when i get there that and i need to buy a new laptop and pay off as much of my 1500 overdraft as possible.
Getting started for me is ok too, when i first began i spent a week doing about 5 hours study a day, now im lucky if i can manage 30 mins without giving up.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-04-22 13:46 [#01884919]
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Well...
I mean to say that once you know how to read -kana and how to use a dictionary, and to understand what "wa" and "ga" and so on mean, you can take any text or video or audio and learn something, with the help of a dictionary or whatever. I recommend buying a proper two-way Japanese dictionary, with both kanji and kana inscription. Also, as brokenphones mentioned, there's PLENTY of online material out there. Can you say Google?
Still, the best motivation is to actually view/read/listen to some interesting material, whatever that might be.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 14:05 [#01884925]
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i have been havinbg trouble finding a Japanese to english dictionary i can only find english to Japanese.
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uzim
on 2006-04-22 14:10 [#01884926]
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well, you do have a point, that sounds perfectly reasonable... but i'm in third year of japanese university and i'm calling it quits. honestly, it must be due in great part to the horribly academic, disconnected from reality and demotivating way they teach it here, and i'm to blame for not having learnt by myself, but i've pretty much lost my interest for it for the moment. to the point that i'm almost feeling irritated whenever i hear something in japanese.
so... good luck.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 14:14 [#01884927]
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is that studying Japanese or studying something else at a Japanese university? all study gets like that, you reach the dead zone where everything to do with teh subject not only bores you to tears it actually infuriates. I had same with Philosophy it normally seems to happen before a breakthrough. I always think of it as a patience test but i am the eternal annoying optomist.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-22 14:15 [#01884928]
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CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEFS I DON'T SPEAK JAPANESE
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uzim
on 2006-04-22 14:18 [#01884930]
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the language.
yes, i fear every study becomes like that too : / the problem is that i can't seem to get over it...
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 14:19 [#01884931]
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it's the worst feeling especially when it happens after you have invested so much time into getting as far as you can. I think the key is in getting so pissed off to the point where you refuse to have all that effort be a waste heh.
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uzim
on 2006-04-22 14:24 [#01884935]
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maybe this link will help?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-22 14:26 [#01884936]
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ooo lovely, thanks :)
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-04-22 14:28 [#01884937]
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nah i only speak jiberish
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kwarkie69
from ANTVERPIA (Belgium) on 2006-04-23 08:51 [#01885387]
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I have a friend who speaks Japanese, but he's in Taiwan now.......... he's an artist and makes very nice installations, check them out: http://www.nonprofitgallery.com/suzuki
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-04-23 08:53 [#01885391]
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there really good, but his page background hurts my eyes (the movement is irritating eheh).
The glowing hospital beds are eerie!
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kwarkie69
from ANTVERPIA (Belgium) on 2006-04-23 08:57 [#01885392]
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well, better check my website than, (allmost) no movement, certainly not in the background........
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