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ahem *clears throat* ok! what i'm asking is do you take an interest in politics, nationally, locally etc. i'm not looking for political opinions, i'm looking for reasons behind why or why not you may take an interest in them personally.. i do. for me, it is of the upmost importance to take an interest in world politics, national and international. i suspect because i enjoy learning from other ppls opinions, you accept or reject. and of course this goes on subcounciously anyway whether you like it or not. politics affects everyone, even if you choose to ignore it. there's loads of other bullshit i'll leave until later! :) no this isnt baiting, on the contrary, my hope is to unite rather that antagonise. |
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i hope drunken mastah and mapatazee post, although i respect they are more of a philosopher, like me :) |
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I do have an active interest in local and international politics. but for me, as soon as you read a paper or watch the news, it seems almost impossible not too. |
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hahahahaha! ok, just to please you then darling, but I'll apologise for misspellings beforehand since I'm kind of drunk. I take an interest in politics, yes, but I'm not active in any political party; the parties here in norway are.. well, I can't seem to find even one I agree with more than 30% of and the ones that get closest to those 30% are parties I don't really believe know what they're doing.. just a bunch of uncompromising idealists that, by their "we don't compromise" attitude, don't seem to be neither democratical nor likely to get anything done. |
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lol isnt "uncompromising idealists" an oxymoron? |
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bollocks im crap, well at least i tried. bye bye. |
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"i dont give a shit about the news n stuff, its boring. i dont give a toss about politics because it doesn't mean anything to me" people who say stuff like that make my blood boil. how can it not mean anything? nearly all aspects of how you live your life will be affected. GRRRRR |
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you're right. of course. just like that new labour advert. |
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I always vote for The Cutest Candidate |
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do you mean new labour new danger or the new labour advert with that chameleon, cos i've not seen the latter yet |
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in which case id vote for you if you stood. fucking ell im such a creep... :( |
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i just watched dave the chameleon. it was ok but err the vote labour bit at the end ruined it |
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I agree there should be more parking spaces for disabled people and something done about litter and no more going to war and sending back the gypsies. Will that do? |
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gnite |
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The only emotions I get after I read anything about Polish politics are bewilderment, anxiety and extreme anger. Nothing positive, but I love every single second if it! For me it's like constant bloody games at the arena. Masses clashing... revenge of the bigots!... intellectuals frustrated grinding their teath... Awesome! Thankfully, people of the fine city od Wroclaw are lucky with their authorities. |
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I try to keep up with the news so I know if there's anything I should be worried about, but about current issues I'm way too indecisive to participate.. not to mention that I think party politics, at least in the US, fosters an unneeded but powerful group mentality and demonizes the other regardless of truth..thus polarizing the whole country when things should always be viewed on a continuum. This is pretty much an insurmountable problem at the moment, but it reveals why I can't ever take a stand on anything. It's also why I've been abstaining from voting lately too. I don't think that's being a 'fence-sitter.' Anyone who is too sure of anything is suspect in my book.. it shows a general unwillingness to compromise, which is what politics should be about. |
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Well you pretty much summed it up. Anyhow, what exactly are we debating about? Which of us is the most politically involved? |
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politics is a bit of a one way street in australia. liberal and howard will stay in because to quote alexei sayle, 'the oppositions very existence often seems to be hazy'. its imprinted in the australian consciousness that we owe america for saving our asses in world war 2, so its unlikely we will ever detach from the alliance, regardless of who is in power. |
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I'm interested mostly in international politics, as far as local politicians here are just like a mafia, and there's not much to do seeing ppl's attitudes... I've been involved with the antiglobalitzation movement, under tear gas attack and that silly stuff... Giving support to the Zaps since 1994... In contact with the brazilian MST... Dunno... traveled the world to see with my own eyes (Africa, Asia, Southamerica...) Member of Amnesty International for ten years... Anarchist for twelve... Political spray-writer during elections (we the Invisibles never vote...) and some other stuff I'm forgetting 'cause it's just half past eight in the morning and coffee has yet to come... BTW... Is there some black block freak here? Am I alone, as usual? |
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I come and go. I don't watch local news. It's usually irrelevant crap or a death from whoever got shot in a shitty neighborhood today. Local politics stuff is usually quiet around here. It's not that I choose to ignore most national politics, it's that it raises my heart rate to an unhealthy fashion. I stopped caring after Bush won the second election. What am I gonna do? Get upset for the next 4 years? I really really don't care how bad he fucks up this country. We've been asking for it for a long time. It does affect my world but seriously what can I do about it? Gas has gone up 40 cents in the past month so I'm supposed to boycott oil and not get around town? In order for me to appreciate life, I take the Daoist approach and just go with the flow. What ever happens, happens. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Thats pretty much my interest in politics. Comments welcome. |
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local politics sucks and im not interested, mainly because in 3 neighbouring counties we have one with an MP for each of the 3 main parties, and rtheres no difference whatsoever. and i dont intend to live here long anyway. of course im interested in national politics, because that DOES matter. but i feel powerless to get involved in it |
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I'm all for thin government. I concede that we do need a government (yes, ideally I'd like an anarchistic state populated solely by reasonable people, but I realise that isn't going to happen), however, they interfere far too much in every little facet of our lives. It's like having a manager who micro-manages you, checking up on you every 2 minutes and asking for explanations for everything you do, no matter how trivial it is. I also believe that government organisations are inherently beauracratic, inefficient and make poor decisions. I honestly think we could have a well run country operating on 1/4 of the budget if we cut out the dead wood and did things properly. The only real reason I align myself with the conservatives is that of the only 3 who have any chance of getting elected (not that the lib dems do anymore, now that they stupidly kicked out Kennedy), they are the ones who leave you alone most. They tax you and that's it, you're largely left to get on with it. I oppose any party that wants to increase tax or further erode the notion of the individual, so that's the lib dems out of the window. As for Labour, well, I could definately bring myself to vote for a socialistic party, but there's no way even the most ardent labour supporter could claim that they are still a socialistic party and keep a straight face. You only have to look at the huge, huge numbers of disenfranchised ex-labour supporters to see quite how much this party have lost the plot. So, we have a party that care so little about us that they make the conservatives look compassionate. They love exercising control over incredibly petty things like the Lib Dems and they love watering down talent and flair in the name of "inclusionism". Their economic policy is akin to a 16 year old being given a credit card with a 25K overdraft limit. Whilst the Tories are certainly guilty of it, Labour takes "favours for mates in industry" to a whole new level and given this is supposedly what they're against, it's all the more sic |
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all the more sickening. As to global politics, I think it's a neccessary evil, but it's a bit stupid. It boils down to might is right. Who exactly are you supposed to appeal to if a country won't comply? Seeing as God tends not to get involved, it ends up being the most powerful state is "Daddy" and the others have limited sway over them. So, it ends up a sort of fascistic "might is right" contest. Essentially, I'm into individualism, but with fairly minimal, neccessary controls in place to ensure that people are rewarded for actions that benefit society, punished for those that harm it and are left alone for everything else. |
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