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offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-04-13 20:02 [#01879059]
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A friend and I were walking down the road and we saw one of
my friend's friends who apparently doesn't like me. My
friend and him had some friendly banter for a few moments
before we walked on.

That sprung a conversation in which my friend revealed that
he's noticed people are naturally inclined to dislike me.
He said that a lot of his friends, after meeting me, have
said they don't like me. Some say they think I'm an
asshole, others think I'm pathetic (which is the case with
the instance that triggered this thread).

Looking back on meeting these people, I have only acted in
ways that divert attention from myself, or that I thought
did so. I acknowledge that I have an odd personality, and
that I might not fit in with a lot of people...

One of my friends (of 3) says that I act "defeated", which I
think is the truest assessment. I don't know. I've always
thought people were naturally inclined to dislike me, but I
thought it was mostly paranoia; apparently it wasn't.

I definately need to train more in charisma
*mopes*


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-04-13 20:02 [#01879060]
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this might be insulting to monoid...


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-04-13 20:25 [#01879063]
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actually, it could be quite a self-esteem boost.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-04-13 20:28 [#01879064]
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I've always thought people were naturally inclined to
dislike me, but I thought it was mostly paranoia; apparently
it wasn't.


Ha! I found that out too. But, well, what can you do. I
don't like most other people so I guess it's fair.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-04-13 20:33 [#01879067]
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yeah, I rationalize it similarly...it's mostly troublesome
though.


 

offline DaggerHappy from Australia on 2006-04-13 20:54 [#01879068]
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you some have friends, and they're friends enough to tell
you people dislike you and you act defeated. they're honest
to you and thats the best sign in a friend.

i'm sure you've heard this before but all you can do is be
yourself, if you act different to make friends its not
really real and people don't like a pretentious phony.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-04-13 21:05 [#01879070]
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the instance in which my friend told me people dislike me
was a rare moment of honesty on his part. The very fact
that he noticed it is amazing, since in order for him to
process any sort of observable phenomenon, it has to happen
a lot, which tells me this is a greater issue than I may
have previously thought.

I do have one good friend though, thankfully.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-04-13 21:14 [#01879073]
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Frightening, I must ask someone if this is also paranoia in
my case.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-04-13 21:31 [#01879080]
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Yeah, I can somewhat relate to this. I too try not to draw
attention to myself, I'm not remotely offensive to anyone,
near as I can tell, yet I seem to rub many people the wrong
way. I make a bad first impression. Hey, I guess I act and
look like a ghoul, what can you do? I don't take it
personally. I'm extremely reserved and most people don't
want to mingle with people like me (the feeling is of course
soooo mutual).

Can't relate to the ''asshole'' thing, though. I think
people just get a certain polarizing vibe from me. Why would
they think you're an asshole, in your opinion? Smarmy
remarks, caustic 'tude, or what?


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-13 22:56 [#01879091]
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When people meet me, they think I'm really arrogant,
initially. It's not until they get to know me that they
realise that I'm actually really shy, which is why I don't
really talk to a lot of people if I don't know them.

So I guess I'm in a similar-ish boat to yourself..


 

offline OK on 2006-04-14 01:25 [#01879120]
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well i usually don't give good first impressions, but past
that i believe I have some charm.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-04-14 01:29 [#01879121]
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ask me


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-04-14 02:28 [#01879144]
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At least people think somethink of you... You're lucky.
People don't even think about me. =|


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 02:31 [#01879149]
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monoid doesnt have 3 friends though


 

offline uzim on 2006-04-14 03:10 [#01879165]
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doesn't sound too good... = (
but frankly it's really rude of them to say that you're
"pathetic" or "an asshole", even if they didn't say it
directly to you.

i don't know...

i don't really know either how others perceive me; i think
i'm the "quite nice, but not very talkative, nor attractive,
nor interesting" kind. i could be wrong.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 03:22 [#01879174]
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right well,not sure what to say.
i love you all,your all wellcome to uncle hanals house.
apart from moniod.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-04-14 03:45 [#01879187]
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a night filled with kebabs, stella and masuimi max. sounds
good!

and it's good to see monoid in wikipedia too:

Monoid
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In abstract algebra, a branch of mathematics, a monoid is an
algebraic structure with a single, associative binary
operation and an identity element. In other words, it is a
unital semigroup.

Contents

1 Definition
2 Examples
3 Properties
4 Monoid homomorphisms
5 Relation to category theory

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Definition

A monoid is a set M with binary operation * : M × M ? M,
obeying the following axioms:

Associativity: for all a, b, c in M, (a*b)*c = a*(b*c)
Identity element: there exists an element e in M, such that
for all a in M, a*e = e*a = a.
One often sees the additional axiom

Closure: for all a, b in M, a*b is in M
though, strictly speaking, this isn't necessary as it is
implied by the notion of a binary operation.

Alternatively, a monoid is a semigroup with an identity
element.

A monoid satisfies all the axioms of a group with the
exception of having inverses. A monoid with inverses is the
same thing as a group.

A monoid whose operation is commutative is called a
commutative monoid (or, less commonly, an abelian monoid).

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Examples

Every singleton set {x} gives rise to a one-element
(trivial) monoid. For fixed x this monoid is unique, since
the monoid axioms require that x*x = x in this case.
Every group is a monoid and every abelian group a
commutative monoid.
Every semilattice is an idempotent commutative monoid.
Any semigroup S may be turned into a monoid simply by
adjoining an element e not in S and defining ee = e and es =
s = se for all s ? S.
The natural numbers, N, form a commutative monoid under
addition (identity element zero), or multiplication
(identity element one).
The elements of any unital ring, with addition or
multiplication as the operation.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 04:00 [#01879198]
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and dont forget the music sir-we could have a dj-off.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-04-14 05:43 [#01879233]
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After a little thought, I don't want to know the truth.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-04-14 06:01 [#01879236]
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No one gives a f**k about me. No one cares if my children
starve, if they're on welfare. I have to support my
children. I need more money


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-04-14 06:11 [#01879243]
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you dont have to


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:08 [#01879256]
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Eat your kids and stop your fucking whinging you CUNT.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:38 [#01879278]
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for a moment there you were allmost funny.
but your right ,no one gives a fuck about you.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:40 [#01879283]
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I really want a kebab now, after seeing your avatar. I don't
think there are any kebab shops in Plymouth. Well not that I
know of.

On the plus side, I'll be getting some kebab of the "badly
packed" variety tomorrow.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:42 [#01879284]
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the later sounds good.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:44 [#01879286]
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It will be, but for now I will venture into town on my
skateboard for some regular kebab action.

Wish me luck!


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 07:50 [#01879290]
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GOOD LUCK SIR!!!!!!


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-04-14 08:02 [#01879300]
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Sometimes you guys have no pride, so no matter what I say,
you guys ... it doesn't affect you because you don't care
about nothing. So every now and then I kick your fucking ass
and stomp on you and put some kind of pain and inflict some
of the pain on you because you deserve to feel the pain that
I feel.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 08:04 [#01879302]
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now that was funny,well done.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-04-14 08:05 [#01879303]
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yeah, maybe you arre just one of them people.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-04-14 08:06 [#01879305]
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i have no idea what people think of me. not much i wouldn't
think. i'm neitherr herre norr therre


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-14 08:07 [#01879307]
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i love you.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-14 08:07 [#01879308]
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IM HAVING FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-04-14 09:05 [#01879351]
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I'll be honest... i could go for some fish

just not yet. noooooooooooot yeeeeeeeeeeeet

yeet?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-14 09:11 [#01879359]
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go for the salmon!

..or the red ones...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-14 09:14 [#01879360]
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oh, btw I found this


Attached picture

 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-04-14 09:20 [#01879370]
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i avoided this thread until now since i thought it was about
monoid.

at xltronic i've been told i should die, that i'm a stupid
idiot, a twat, that i'm thought of as an elderly lesbian
aunt, and that i should be banned, and only a couple of
those were from dog_belch. so i guess you could say i rub
some people the wrong way.

you seem like a fine chap to me, scup. what's most
important is that you like yourself. if you're not happy
with some elements, realize that you're happy with others.
some elements can be changed, if you want to change them.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-04-14 09:23 [#01879371]
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hahaah that big ol panders is gonna snack on little girl
happyness! :D

When we have salmon my mom has this mustard sauce deal that
she coats one side with and then we grill it. It is good
times inside my mouth


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-14 09:40 [#01879380]
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there's this awesome fish dish thingie I make from time to
time.. you need 5kgs of large-grained sea salt, one large
trout or salmon, lots of goodies to put inside the fish and
all the stuff you usually eat with fish.

pour parts of the salt out on one of those plates you put in
the oven so that it covers it. put the fish on top (keep
head and tail on if possible). put goodies inside fish where
the guts used to be. cover fish completely with the rest of
the salt (if the head or tail sticks out from the salt it
doesn't matter as you're not eating that anyway.. you're
just keeping it on to keep goodness inside). put it in the
oven (around 200 degrees celsius) until the salt is a hard
shell and the fish is ready (when the meat "lets go" of the
bone.. just chop a small hole near the spine of the fish and
check.. it shouldn't take more than an hour or so).

when it's finished, chop up the salt and eat the fish!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-14 09:45 [#01879386]
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hahahahaha!

le toe de camel!


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-04-14 10:22 [#01879404]
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Sometimes I think "Why do I bother, what's the point of all
this, why don't I just jack it all in?" and then I remember,
Plaidzebra has yet to be vanquished.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-04-14 10:33 [#01879407]
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if you need something to live for, i'm there for you old
pal. can we arrange for a deathbed vanquishing though?
i've got a lot of vanquishing to do myself.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-04-14 10:35 [#01879408]
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i was waiting forr it


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-04-14 10:36 [#01879409]
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why is it that picturres like that just make you fucking
LONG to see the girrl and herr gash prroperrly. if i had
just one wish now, that'd prrobably be it, it's drriving me
crrazy.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-04-14 10:42 [#01879415]
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likewise.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-14 12:47 [#01879518]
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sorry, had to go..


 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-04-15 21:05 [#01880324]
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i like you man


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-04-15 21:23 [#01880328]
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aw thanks, I like you too



 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-04-15 21:46 [#01880332]
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your real and the the people that dont like you from judging
you from first is fake


 


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