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Jeroen
on 2006-04-10 15:45 [#01876623]
Points: 35 Status: Addict
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this isnt good, the way i'm amassing points already.
but, anyone ever drank ayahuasca or something similar? what was it like? i have a nice batch in the freezer but i'm too chickenshit to try it before sufficient research has taken place.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-04-10 15:56 [#01876630]
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I'd say: dive into it like there's no tomorrow. I haven't tried it myself, but the element of surprise could be a reward in itself
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-10 16:06 [#01876637]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to vlari: #01876630
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that must be the worst advice ever, almost usable in any situation!
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-10 16:07 [#01876639]
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ehm yeah the element of halfway dying from fear could be rewarding. ehh i shouldnt moan and just get it over with
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-10 16:09 [#01876645]
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it's never a good idea to do any drug when you're not feeling comfortable in some way using it.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-04-10 16:13 [#01876646]
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agreed. know what you're getting yourself into first.
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-10 16:17 [#01876647]
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i wish i hadn't made this topic, drug talk has something sad about it. buttts you're right, these possibly life changing things aren't to be disrespected.
R.E.S.P.E.C.T
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-10 16:19 [#01876649]
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well, chances of a drug 'turning on you' are significantly higher when you have negative feelings of any form while taking it.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-04-10 16:23 [#01876651]
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haaha! Honest to goodness LOL!
I have never heard of it so i cannot comment on it.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-04-10 16:35 [#01876656]
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I have no idea what that is but before I do something new, I read up on it for like a month, weigh the pros and cons, and meditate for about an hour before I finally try it. Never try something if the first thing you feel before doing it is anxiety.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-04-10 16:38 [#01876658]
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That stuff can be mental intense from what i hear. I wouldn't if you're still a bit woaahhh about it all. Never done it, but i guess high-dose salvia and DMT brews can be compared... heh. I say wait a while, psychedelic paranoia is fucking horrible :) Do the erowid thing then fill your mind with sunbeams and kittens, i'm sure you know that already.
Nice to see you back, rukspoken etc
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-04-10 19:50 [#01876718]
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i did it. it is not a party drug. i'll leave it at that.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2006-04-10 22:14 [#01876770]
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ive done it, but i wouldnt do it again. Drinking mimosa hostillis and syrian rue can be pretty vomit-inducing.
If you can get ahold of pure DMT crystals & harmaline hcl i recommend doing "pharmahuasca" and making a powder cocktail in some orange juice. I hear its a lot better this way but i have never tried it.
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-11 00:45 [#01876794]
Points: 35 Status: Addict
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never had any luck smoking salvia, i suppose its the reverse-tolerance thing, or my low sensitivity, because when i finally felt some strange gravity i ran out of herb.
belb: rukspoken? oooohhh yeah right. *thumb up, winks*. harr harr.
it appears my local library stocks an entire book about it, ill get that this afternoon.
jackeroffer: from what ive read so far, some people actually 'like' the vomiting for its cleansing effect.
mine's made with b. caapi and m. hostilis. do you know which of the 2 plants you used makes people barf their innards out?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-11 01:54 [#01876806]
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Hi Jeroen. Did you order a kit or something?
i can't wait to do ayahuasca myself, but when i do, i want to do it right, ie: not by trying some half assed extraction of some herbs, when in reality it contains so much more. There are organised ayahuasca rituals, even in the netherlands, but you need to know some people.
What are your motives anyway? I think Ayahuasca should be seen as a final possible solution for complete and utter mental isolation from which you have to break free. Personally, i think something in my head is locked, and maybe ayahuasca can unlock it. However, it's all bollocks if you aren't mentally prepared and the only way you can prepare is by reading books, and hoping that ayahuasca will somehow come to you.
Keep us updated.
ps: read 'the cosmic serpent' by jeremy narby.
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-11 02:08 [#01876810]
Points: 35 Status: Addict | Followup to J198: #01876806
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uuhm a friend ordered a load, gave me 2 baggies with said plants. i tried to do my extraction as good as possible, 4 extractions with hot acidic water, boiled all the fractions down to 400 ml. I've been looking into the sainto daime church in Den Haag, but they sprinkled christianity all over their rituals which puts me off.
I'm not doing it for fun, thats for sure. I dont even do shrooms for fun (my first trip wasn't all that nice, i cried half of the time but felt amazing afterwards) (by the way do you grow yours PF-tek style with rice cakes or did you ever try using a big crate full of substrate? i'll try that soon.), these substances are for self-exploration and understanding. I dont have much mental problems (the isolation you speak of).. My motives are personal growth.
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-11 02:11 [#01876812]
Points: 35 Status: Addict | Followup to Jeroen: #01876810
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your comments are gay and whiney, asswipe
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-11 02:45 [#01876825]
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let's talk on msn. i have miss-worded some stuff in my post.
add me: jeroennn at hotmail
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Jeroen
on 2006-04-11 02:53 [#01876833]
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im not sure if ill be able to differentiate between you and myself...
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finallastwords
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-11 03:19 [#01876847]
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I met a guy in guatemala who was on his way to the peruvian jungle to spend a couple of weeks with a tribe to prepare for taking that stuff.
I took San Pedro in Peru which was no way near as powerful as ayahuasca but even then, there was still preparation and guidance throughout the experience...
which i would recommend.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-11 03:56 [#01876877]
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sounds nice. i'd love to go there.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-11 15:15 [#01877279]
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Yeah me and j198 were chatting about this. The retreat thing would be amazing indeed - once in a lifetime I'm sure
Check this out, haven't read it yet, a bookmark I'd forgotten I'd made: LAZY_TITLE
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