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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 03:04 [#01871369]
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i remember that someone made a topic like "bought a
microkorg today" and my first post was like "why haven't you
bought an alesis micron?"

i was like completely sure then that i would go for an
alesis micron no mather what.

but after reading a few reviews, listening to demo sounds,
and using them for myself in stores my opinion has changed
quite a bit making me oscilate between these two machines.

microkorg
micron

let's start with the price - the korg costs 1500 zloty in
poland, the alesis 2000 zloty - one point for the korg
(price DOES matter)

the alesis seems the better choice when you look at it. -
more polyphony, multitimbral, beat sequencer and richer
sound (even good pads what i never expected). and a nice
keyboard! the korg sounds more trancy, but - the korg has
does one major thing - it sounds more ANALOG. and this might
be the key.

i mean - why should i buy a hardware synth? analog sound! i
don't need a hardware with fm synthesis or substractive -
the vst emulators can get that sound already really good.

the korg has something more - more controls to use it live
on stage - nice filters that you can tweak at once.

the alesis is a bitch to program with the 3 knobs and the
multitimbrality and the whole setuping proces is quite
retarded.

i would aperciate much any info or opinion on these
hardwares - maybe some mp3's or wavs with sounds that might
help me out (preferable fat basses)

thanks in advance !



 

offline zero-cool on 2006-04-03 03:25 [#01871373]
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i got a micro korg.

and i think its a good keyboard

but i don't know anything about the ion


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 03:34 [#01871376]
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tell me is it possible to use the microkorg as an instrument
and as a midi controller at once ?

i would want to do something like this (which worked
perfectly on a x-station) - i use the keyboard as a midi
controller which goes through ableton live and goes back to
the synth section.

so i press record in ableton, record a sequence and the loop
it and it plays on the synth.

possible ?


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-04-03 03:37 [#01871379]
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ahhhh...

i was gonna ask that as well


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 03:43 [#01871381]
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:|

just try it out then...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 03:44 [#01871383]
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As a regretfull microkorg owner, I have to pipe in.

THe microkorg sounds like cheap va. Someone told me that its
because of the filters. Seriously. I thought it was great at
first. Then I started getting more synths, and the microkorg
sounded like a fart compared to some of the other affordable
stuff I was buying.

The keys are too small. The matrix is annoying. You get used
to it. But still, it aint right. If you are choosing between
one matrix interfaced synthesizer and another, its not
really that much of a matter. Aparently you can assign the
three knobs on the micron to whatever parameter you like.

Seriously. All these people start doing the whole microkorg
vs micron debate. I always ring in saying "spend the extra
money, get the micron". People end up choosing the microkorg
because its $100 dollars cheaper. As much as price matters,
you get what you pay for. Personally, I will never buy
another korg synthesizer after owning the microkorg, and
then also the poly 800. The microkorg was one of the worst
sounding pieces of hardware that I have owned.

But to answer your second question, yes, you can use the
microkorg as a midi keyboard and a synthesizer without both
notes being played. All you need to do is turn global off,
and it will only play back notes on the midi in. Its the
same with practically every synthesizer with midi.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 03:50 [#01871387]
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wow ! thanks for this feedback. made me think.

what synths do you have besides the korg?

what would you recommend? (if the price might be a little
higher?)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 04:11 [#01871396]
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My gear list:

Synths:
Yamaha SY22 Vektor Synthesizer
DSI Evolver
Akai MPC 1000
Akai s950
Roland SH32 (VA)
Yamaha TX81z FM synthesizer
Korg Poly 800
-------------------------------------------------
Effects:
Alesis Quadraverb GT
Berhinger Ultrapatch Pro
Berhinger Eurorack 1002fx
Behringer UM100 pedal
Korg Kaos Pad 2
-------------------------------------------------
Ordered or are otherwise purchasing soon:
Nord Rack 3
Yamaha 01V Mixer

Gear I have sold:
Korg MicroKorg
Novation X Station
Boss DS330
Alesis midifex
Alesis midiverb

What would I suggest you buy? An evolver. $550us. It costs
as much as a micron, it has real analogue oscilators, real
analogue filters, a built in sequencer that can sequence
everything, and it sounds like a beast. you get subtractive
and fm synthesis, and can modulate everything with the
sequencer. There is no way you can get this sound from a
computer, in any way shape or form. Its amazing.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 04:13 [#01871397]
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Bad point tho, is no keyboard. Buy one of those cheap
behringer controllers. Costs about $120 us for the 61 key
version.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 04:13 [#01871398]
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Under 70 for a 25 key version.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 04:23 [#01871401]
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that's even cool for me.

i want to buy and m-audio ozonic so rack versions of synths
are cool for me.

less stuff to manage on stage.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 04:28 [#01871403]
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i just found an article about it in a local magazine. i
think i'll give it a look.

but 500 for a monophonic box.... ouch



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 04:32 [#01871404]
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Well, if you want to do chords, you can set all four
oscilators to center channel and then tune each voice to the
appropriate frequency.

Seriously, this thing sounds better than most things out
there, monophonic or polyphonic.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 04:37 [#01871405]
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i also found sound samples on the magazine-cd.

wow ! i'm impressed! sounds really massive


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 04:42 [#01871407]
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it sounds very harsh and sharp. actually that's what i want
from an analog synth :>


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2006-04-03 05:49 [#01871421]
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I made that topic your talking about, and I didn't buy the
korg, I bought the micron, but i'm still waiting for it. It
should be here thursday


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-04-03 06:14 [#01871432]
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kewl !! can i mail you then about your thoughts ??


 

offline evils on 2006-04-03 07:28 [#01871451]
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not wanting to sit on the fence but I've got both and think
they're both good. They're different synths at the end of
the day with different strengths - they're not that
expensive either, why not get both?


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-04-03 07:42 [#01871461]
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post a picture ehh, and a link to your music made with the
microkorg


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-04-03 07:48 [#01871467]
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I have a Microkorg. It's excellent for little jam sessions
when your friends come over with their guitars and drum
machines.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-03 11:48 [#01871673]
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Micron, based on the fact it's pretty mcuh the Ion (which I
have) and that's bloody immense.
The microKorg is a good synth, but it can't do everything;
the Micron can.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:17 [#01871692]
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Thats kind of like me asking you to post music that you made
with a fart as far as I am concerned.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:22 [#01871695]
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Unfortunately I have no more pictures of my microkorg
anymore. Check my myspace page, I think I still have one
there. Here are some studio pictures. These pictures haven't
been updated in about 3 months.


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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:22 [#01871696]
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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:22 [#01871697]
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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:23 [#01871698]
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offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-04-03 12:28 [#01871701]
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i want your stuff


 

offline pf from Finland on 2006-04-03 12:31 [#01871702]
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do you any music?


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-04-03 12:35 [#01871703]
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Man, your stuff always fascinated me. Don't stop posting
pics.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:43 [#01871707]
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Yes, I make music.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 12:43 [#01871708]
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I will post updated pics when I get the nord...


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-03 13:28 [#01871728]
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will we ever get to hear any of it?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 13:30 [#01871729]
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Yes.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-04-03 13:33 [#01871730]
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I don't have a proper multitrack recording device for a midi
setup. That comes after the mixer.

Wait until then, when I can actually record songs and do
mastering...


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-03 13:40 [#01871731]
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coolness


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2006-04-03 14:31 [#01871743]
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nise casio va 10, if i'm right


 


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