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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-02-18 19:58 [#01844354]
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AKA a soon to be one of the best movies ever made
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-02-18 20:24 [#01844361]
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it's 3am and i have a headache
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-02-19 13:44 [#01844706]
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haha, I had never saw anything about this before. The cell shading style of the movie is fucking awesomely mind blowing.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-02-19 13:53 [#01844718]
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Yeah it's visually stunning. It looks like it will be good in other ways too. I was genuinely alarmed that they cast Keanu and Winona.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-02-19 14:29 [#01844752]
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Linklater+Dick=!!!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 14:36 [#01844766]
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can't wait
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-02-19 14:41 [#01844770]
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this is looking very good! can't wait. i heard alex jones (infowars.com) was hired as a advisor/consultant for the movie. jones had a small feature in waking life
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-02-19 14:43 [#01844772]
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I dunno, could be shit, but it will look so nice I don't know if anyone will notice.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-19 15:57 [#01844884]
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it looks beautiful. I haven't read the book, and from that point of view that's all this trailer really tells me.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-02-19 16:06 [#01844894]
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it's the same type of animation/live overlapping that was in some banking/mortgage companies commercials recently
personally, i think it looks awful
like in the commercials it's just comes off as a ploy to grab people's attention.
very bad choice of actors/actresses as well
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-19 16:08 [#01844896]
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Linklater used the same effect in his film "waking life" a few years ago, I believe.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-02-19 20:47 [#01845029]
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chambre: yes, Alex Jones also has a role in this movie.
qrter: yeah, the trailer doesnt tell you much. its not an easy book to sum up, especially in a trailer. also, no book reviews Ive read have really captured what the book is about. I don't know if you want me to tell you the plot. if you do, I will.
curbcreeper: have you read the book? if not, the book is really trippy (the main character is on lots of drugs) and its very paranoid/whats really happening. I think the director was wise to realize this is the perfect story to be told with this kind of animation. its trippy as hell... it looks like a cartoon, but it looks like real life, kind of like the drug haze vibe of the novel. also, the casting seems spot in to me. keanu as a dopped up drug addict, and esp downey as Borris, whos a prick
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Q4Z2X
on 2006-02-19 21:48 [#01845032]
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I think if I was to watch that whole thing in the theatre I'd vomit everywhere. not because the actual movie was bad or anything.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-20 01:28 [#01845074]
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looks great. been meaning to get the book. will look for it this week. thanks for posting~!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-02-20 01:29 [#01845075]
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alex jones as consultant, what the fuck? :)
Honestly, for those who haven't seen Waking Life: get a life.
Also worth seeing are Dazed & Confused, and Slacker. I've heard Tape is good too.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-02-20 04:04 [#01845127]
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why wtf?
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uzim
on 2006-02-20 05:47 [#01845165]
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actually, having read the book, this trailer has some spoilers. some BIG spoilers even... of course if you haven't read it at all you don't know it yet, but somewhere in the movie (or in the book if you read it first) you will suspect/know some things about the characters you're not supposed to suspect/know... : /
about the story... actually most of it is a "normal", quite "realistic", story about drugs, paranoia and schizophrenia. there are a few parts that go towards the "metaphysical" but it's only a few parts. most of them are in the trailer by the way.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-02-20 11:19 [#01845419]
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Well, I know what Alex is and what Alex does... :)
If, by consultant, Linklater means someone who's fun to talk to about our surveillance dystopia, then sure I can see the connection. Maybe it's the connotations of the word "consultant" that are hilarious - professional expertise? On what, PKD? I don't think so. On drugs? Nah, he's only got the outsider's perspective (although I know he's at least done some pot), while this book is about subjective experiences. Alex is just a local celebrity and a fun guy to hang around with.
This is a good time to read A Scanner Darkly, though! Now I'm just hoping they (whoever "they" are) will do Valis next - and then, hopefully, The Divine Invasion & The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. Dream on, silly me!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-20 11:22 [#01845422]
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what the fuck?!
why is it super-crap cel-shading ass?
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uzim
on 2006-02-20 11:56 [#01845483]
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it looks weird, i don't know if i like it or not.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-20 12:49 [#01845522]
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It looks pretty good, but I fucking hate Keanu Reeves and Robert "Crackwhore" Downey Jr.
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staz
on 2006-02-20 12:56 [#01845525]
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i love keanu reeves, he's excellent GET IT ^_^
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-20 13:11 [#01845532]
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Haha, yes I do. I think I saw Bill & Ted goes to hell like 20 times when I was younger :p
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-02-20 14:01 [#01845591]
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this certainly looks interesting, however i have a massive hate of CGI in films....they should have celshaded it all by hand using ink
maybe i'm asking too much
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-02-20 15:21 [#01845666]
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aye that makes perfect sense. i am a bit intrigued by the movie and the whoha surrounding this philip k dick character
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-02-20 15:26 [#01845672]
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philip k dick is one of the greatest sci-fi writers of all time.
know blade runner? thats a PKD book: Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-20 15:33 [#01845678]
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why did they make those commercials into a movie? the commercials looked shit and so does this stuff. all the expressions on the actors faces looks over-exaggerated and it is really annoying to watch. it may be impressive technology, but it looks like a terrible idea for a film.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-20 15:35 [#01845679]
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word!
the entire "cel shading" idea thingie has been the worst fucking visual concept ever since it was first introduced into "games" or wahtever...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-02-20 15:37 [#01845681]
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ok, then don't see it
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-20 15:43 [#01845683]
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just because you can use an effect doesn't mean you should. blade runner holds up today as a great film and visually-impressive. this trailer looks like a myspace ad or something.
zeus: i won't. now tell me to shut up because only people who like the thing the thread is about are allowed to talk.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-02-20 15:48 [#01845692]
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shut up. only people who like this movie are allowed to talk.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-02-20 15:49 [#01845694]
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I agree with Arf on this one. I got tired of the effect after 30seconds. And it's got Keanu in it, come oooon
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-02-20 15:49 [#01845696]
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Very well done, reminds me of the game XIII.
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zombie
on 2006-02-20 16:07 [#01845711]
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Not sure about this cell shading wotsit. Bit distracting. Looks nice though.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-02-20 17:11 [#01845737]
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i think the effect is great, and fits the material (as it did in "waking life").
can't tell if it's any good or not, but i'm looking forward to it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-21 02:25 [#01845827]
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look, you guys! I made a movie!
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-02-21 03:35 [#01845872]
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hahahaha
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-21 05:35 [#01845933]
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inspired by the succes of sincity i guess i'll read the book
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zombie
on 2006-02-21 06:29 [#01845963]
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Definitely an improvement, Keanu Reeves has never looked so good! :D
Bit suprised they got hollywood backing to make this film considering the heavy themes of the book. Drug abuse/paranoia etc.
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Q4Z2X
on 2006-02-21 10:42 [#01846124]
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I think that animation effect will end up probably working much better in waking life.. it gives a dreamy atmosphere and works with the non-linear plot.. like how each section has a very different style, for each little conversation that the guy has. I heard that the animation was done simultaneously by different groups of animators having not seen the other's parts.
Though, one thing that really bothered me is how unrealistic a lot the dialogue was in waking life.. I know that the movie wasn't at all trying to be realistic.. but most of it seemed really forced. Like the writer had come up a lot of ideas, studied some stuff and just sort of crammed it all together.. I know the main character was supposed to be dreaming mostly, but how often, even in while awake, do people mention random ass topics like that in passing, providing all sorts of concrete details and everything? I think it would've probably worked better having been knocked a few degrees into documentary territory or fiction.
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