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Hey, I have to buy a pair of new ones. Can't afford the Technichs stuff... Anyone tried the new ones by Stanton? Any suggestion? |
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technics... |
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Ok. Can't afford that even without the extra "H". |
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Why have they got to be brand new ones? It's not very difficult to test/see if a pair are well looked after and are functioning properly. Vestax pdx2000s are in the same price bracket as Stantons and they're my favourite decks. |
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Hummm... I've checked, and looks like they don't have pitch correction function. I mean I can't change the speed without affecting the pitch. Am I right? They look great anyway! |
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Pitch correct? Why? To do that without it being digital is very difficult and unreliable. As far as doing it analogue is concerned, what it usually does is turn everything into a very lo-fi organ or paddy sound. So if you are running your turntables through digital processing, you are still brightening the sound, killing most of the benefits that come with having an analogue turntable. |
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I get it. It runs through a digital processor in order to do that. Yep, didn't first realized... I've also found this: VRX-2000 If I were a rich man, dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi dubi yeah... |
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Yeah. That looks pretty hot. Being able to make your own records and scratch the shit out of them... mmmm. But until the $$$ enough to buy that comes along, theres always my trusty KP2 |
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i spose the answer is second hand technics,but its also cool the likes of Ceri JC,dont go that technics route and use other makes. as good as technics are,they look shit-if i ever need to replace mine in going for the numark.thank you.have a nice day. |
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they look shit, if they aren't pimped that is... |
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well my good man,this is true-but im having problems trying to get hold of more deck plates,i need prepainted ones not the chrome or gold ones,but nobody has em. just on this mix you sent by the way:) |
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hmmmmmm.... Numark checking....vs Vestax....vs....any other suggestion? |
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Huzzah! Someone else who doesn't like the look of technics, I thought I was the only one. Quite why 90% of budget decks emulate the look of 1210s/1200s is beyond me. Straight arm stantons (any model) in silver are the nicest looking decks IMO. Only downside of 2nd hand technics is that because of their renowned durability/reputation as the best, they hold their value (good if you're thinking of selling, but bad if you're buying, obviously). So much so, that I'd be tempted to pay the extra £100 for a pair of brand new ones (which when I looked into it 3 years or so back is all it was) if you're planning on keeping them for a few years. Unabomber: RE Pitch Correct; as mentioned, if it's digital (like stanton's top end decks), what's the point in a vinyl deck? You may as well get a good cd deck instead. |
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HTFR used to regularly have them (in awful, chavvy colours like "Ford Fiesta Red" :P), but can't see them in stock (only chrome). Might be worth giving them a ring. They're inept spastics with exceptionally poor customer service, but they may be able to help. |
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I couldn't afford technics when I first started out so I bought Gemini PT2000's which are solid and have survived 10 years so far, but they do have their flaws.... The torque on them is considerably less than a Technics deck, this made it difficult for me for a while when I first started to get gigs and used 1210's....you get used to the feel of the turntables you have at home, so all the scratching and drop mixing practice can be hard to get used to when confronted with a different set of decks. My advice: All depend if you want to get gigs...but....save for longer if you can. Technics or vestax turntables are the best around and the most common decks found in clubs + if you get bored of dj'ing...you will get most of your money back when selling them. |
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I was thinking of using that to slow down some singin' without affecting the pith... And the CD deck will come later...I use vinyls. Anyway, I could end looking for the Pitch Correct button in any club plates (mostly Technics1200) and gettin' mad! I'm begining to realize that it's not a good idea to get acostumed to that feature... |
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" if you get bored of dj'ing...you will get most of your money back when selling them. " A key point. Everyone who buys decks usually thinks they're really into it, but in reality around half are not used and end up gathering dust, before being sold in a year or so's time. If you can afford to, get a good deck, second hand. You will be able to sell if for what you payed for it 2 years down the line, or at worst lose £25-50. Buy some rubbish brand new (especially "mid price" decks) and you'll lose hundreds if you sell. |
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Very true, at one point I really needed some cash (for crack or sweets or something) I tried to sell my Turntables and was offered £100 for the pair, I paid over £500! i'm glad I kept them |
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Technics and Vestax cost the same round here... Agh! I think I will go n' try both to decide. And I will have to quit smoking to pay... |
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The other thing is if you buy really awful decks, (Argos' own brand belt drives, anyone?) you will get so frustrated by the records falling out of synch, skipping, etc. even if you're doing nothing wrong, that you'll give up. If you buy something decent, you know it's your skills that are lacking and similarly, when you do it right, it sounds perfect. Forget cheapo decks if you're ever planning on gigging, aside from fragility, decks with poor tracking are unuseable in a club environment. I've had people laugh at me due to records skipping etc. courtesy of gasg equipment. I asked the bloke who was organising the gig what decks they had, to see if it was worth taking my own. He said Vestax, so I (foolishly) thought, "Mint! PDX2000s, I'll take my mixer and carts and it'll be just like my home setup." The reality was some ancient vestax decks that I've never seen before/since and which I thought were belt driven to begin with they were so lacking in torque. They skipped everytime someone touched the stage. It was shite. |
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haha i tried them,no luck.i also tried the sefour website,but they just put you on to the shops they supply to. and its those crappy red or blue one that i need,it may be i need to keep checking ebay . |
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That's my advice. Try as many as possible and see what you like. As to saving for them, don't be disheartened. Took me about 18 months of saving to get mine. The pride of ownership when I finally got them outstripped that of any car or bike I've bought. |
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so true,my pride and joy. |
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Nice Setup! Mine is pure chaos |
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I saved up so I could afford some second hand 1200s, and those things are tough so generally i think second hand would be fine. // but with all the new decks that are out now, the decision is harder i suppose. one of my second hand decks was pretty shitty looking as well, but it still help up well with scratching and whatever. word on the streetz is that numark sucks the proverbial ass yo |
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ive got a numark cd deck which is every bit as good as my cdj1000,but ive not tried the turntables |
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There's an important diference between the Technics and the Vestax ttables, the Tone Arm. Straight vs in Angle. I think Technics look better, but I'm used to a straight tone arm... My brain is full of spining equipment! |
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yeah sorry, I meant to say their turntables. |
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buy used 1200's one at a time theres nothing else worth purchasing |
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Well I can't beleive people prefer the horrible plastic look of vestax and numark decks over technics! The 1210 looks like a professional machine, it has mechanical beauty, like the mechanism of a wind up pocket watch. The vestax and numark are like a crappy casio watch, full of 'features', but don't necessarily tell the time any better! and don't look good. Ok, enough of the watch analogy! I have some stanton striaght arm decks, middle price range, but I have seriously out grown them, so I am going to get some lovely technics MK3s, the ones with the dipless pitch and depressed on/off, so it eliminates the two flaws of the original but still retains all the quality and the looks. The most gourgous decks I've ever seen are the technics 1210 special edition gold ones. If you're getting decks then its probably best to get a vestax, stanton, numark or technics worth a fair amount, you shouldn't be dissapointed with any of them if you are going from crap decks, unless you are pre-disposed not to like a certain type, like I don't like the feel of vestax/numark "plasticyness". don't bother with gemini, kam, argos, any belt drive, any cheap crap. i beleive stanton str880 are cheapest with pitch correction, but I don't think it sounds great on ANY deck. just use a pitch plugin on winamp and route mixer send to line in, then pc output to return on the mixer and there you go, pitch on any deck, providing your mixer has send/return fx loop :D |
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technics prob is still the best,and your right they look proffesional. well they did in 1971 |
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techs are the best turntables. the other ones just have things you can play with which can be done way better by having external equipment.. the pitch lock thingie on those vestaxes sound like a noise remix of whatever you're playing... |
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I've tried some yesterday... And the winner is: Technics 1200 Mk5 Thanx a lot for the feedback!! |
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HAYEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! They just phoned me, tomorrow my Technics 1200 Mk5 will be home. Can someone please speed-up time? Or send me through a worm hole straight to tomorrow? HAYEEEEEEE!!!! |
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I got two Mk5 Technics for £5 when I found them between a mint condition Bradleys Robot and all four Universal Indicators which I got for 75p in the local charity shop. |
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That's what I call a real charity shop!! |
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what is the difference between the mk2 and the mk5 anyway? some places it says that mk5 has 16% pitch, but this doesn't seem to be correct.. other than that, there's a different coloured light, but is that all? surely, it can't be..? |
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They solved some troubles, the Mk2 seems less acurate in keepin' the speed locked, the start stop button has been modified to avoid accidental use... I think there's more, but can't remember.. |
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The Mk5 has the recessed power so it is harder to accidentally knock it and power down mid-mix. START/STOP is same, its power on/off that is different. It also has a more accurate pitch control, i.e. dipless, so when you are mixing and you need it very close to the 0% it never goes from variable to quartz lock, so you dont get that little dead zone between being quartz locked and being variable. When you want to engage the quartz lock you press a button for 0% It has more range on the anti skate and the cue lamp has a longer life. Just the few tweaks needed to make it the best again. I am currently working quite a lot of overtime so hopefully I can join the mk5 club soon :) |
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'tis a shame that my deckplates doesn't have holes to accomodate the mk5 |
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I've got a mkII and this is a really beautiful machine. I can't stop looking at it. |
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Minimal drilling should be required. Just make sure you use a centre punch to get the hole in the right place and remove any swarf and crap from the hole. Twist a large drill bit by hand in the hole to remove any sharp bits after drilling. I've never actually done this though, so can't offer any advice. I may at some point modify my pmc06 mixer with extra switches if anyone is interested too. The upfaders have 3 different profiles, selectable from a switch inside the mixer on the fader board. I intend to mount these externally to allow on the fly changes, also add anti-pop pull down resistors to the line/phono switch. I was going to add send/return, but realised that one can use the spare headphone socket for send and line in for return :) |
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i had a stanton str8-30. im no pro but it was "alright". i could tell from the plastic that it's not a tanks. a bit too much skipping as well. but hey, its cheap! and direct drive. |
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I don't think the paintjob hanal did on them will be too pleased with drilling... |
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HMMMMMMMM COULD BE DONE,BUT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CAREFULL |
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I'M THINKING EVERYDAY DECKS, AND SHOWROOM DECKS BY HANALâ„¢ IN THE FUTURE |
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I LIKE THE THOUGHT OF THAT SIR,ARE THE XL SLIPMATS READY DO YOU KNOW |
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that is up to OOOPS, I TURNED OFF THE CAPS, THAT IS UP TO BOOBIAZERO. BUTTER FOR NOW AND THEY ARE LOOKING SHARP. THE PLATES SAY HELLO DADDY |
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BIG HI TO THE OFFSPRING BUTTERS DO HAVE A REAL NICE LOOK TO THEM AND ALSO DO A FANTASTIC JOB,TOMORROW I MIGHT JUST HAVE A SCRATCH FRENZY. THEN ON MONDAY GO TO THE DOCTORS:) |
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BOOBIAZERO IS STILL OFF BUT I'M JUSTIFIED CAUSE I GOT GEIR JANSSEN AKA BIOSPHERE AKA DJ HANAL'S ACOUSTIC BAND ON MY HEADPHONES AKA BOOBYPHONES ,ANYWAY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD AND IS MARCO SLEEPING WELL ? |
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