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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:01 [#01797266]
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do you know any artists that are originators.that started a new sound/genre along with these ones
New order Autechre Aphex Twin Joy Division Lee Perry
thats whats come to my mind i know it lack some great pop artits so fill in
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-12-09 20:02 [#01797267]
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boc
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:02 [#01797268]
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the smiths
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:07 [#01797270]
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elvis james brown lou reed credence clearwater revival
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:07 [#01797271]
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ramones
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:08 [#01797272]
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bowie
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:09 [#01797274]
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all artists you mentioned is originators indeed
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geraldine
on 2005-12-09 20:09 [#01797275]
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oprah dr. phil
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:10 [#01797276]
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from australia
<- nick cave jimmy barnes :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-09 20:11 [#01797277]
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Bjørk?
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:11 [#01797278]
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dj shadow
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:13 [#01797279]
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i think barnsey sound ended with barnsey.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-09 20:19 [#01797280]
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Art of Noise
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:19 [#01797281]
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nick drake ?
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:26 [#01797282]
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isent the whole idea of a music messege bords to share our music experience to each other.we get recommendations from each other
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-12-09 20:39 [#01797284]
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most of us should tucked up in bed by now :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-12-09 20:46 [#01797286]
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kate bush pixies
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 20:52 [#01797288]
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Julee Cruise Sigur Ros Happy Mondays
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-12-09 21:00 [#01797294]
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oh, i disagree with a lot of these.
it's often hard to pin down "originators" because musical genres tend to take small steps in any given direction. it's not very often you could honestly say a band or artist was really, really original. and certainly most of this thread is just a list of "favorites" or "most popular" rather than the "originators".
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 21:03 [#01797295]
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do you got any exemples then ?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-09 21:06 [#01797296]
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how's about you point out bands who've pioneered the sounds that other people in this thread think their named-bands pioneered?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-09 21:07 [#01797297]
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heh
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-12-09 21:11 [#01797301]
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my point is that it's all relative - how carefully you want to look. if you took elvis presley, he did not invent rock n roll. the music came from a commercial hit factory of songwriters, who were ripping off hank williams and that other crossover guy, who were just fusing together honky tonk and country, which stems from the blues. and so on. it's not like these things just miraculously appeared out of thin air one day. there was a lot of intermingling of subgenres and influences.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-12-09 21:13 [#01797305]
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I think what most people mean with "originator" is the first person or band to bring a certain sound or genre to the surface, in other words, making it available to the "mass audience".
if looked at it like that, a lot of the names mentioned do make sense. kind of. my pretty.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-12-09 21:15 [#01797309]
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even so, there are a lot here that could be quite debateable. and really, who cares to do that? not me.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-12-09 21:15 [#01797310]
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I agree with your point, btw, which makes the whole discussion senseless, hence the other definition.
come to think of it, it's ofcourse still a senseless discussion..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-12-09 21:16 [#01797311]
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you could at least name them, then.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-12-09 21:18 [#01797312]
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that just would be boring to me.the one who is rememberd is rememberd.
read qrters post
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-12-09 21:31 [#01797316]
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ok, for instance...
you say Elvis presley and i'll say Bill Haley & His Comets, who recorded the most popular version of rock around the clock, which is largely regarded as the first rock and roll song (even though it is straight-up stolen from a hank williams song).
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-12-09 21:57 [#01797320]
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Gram Parsons and Prince, up in a tree, O-R-I-G-I-N-A_T-I_N-G.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-12-09 23:53 [#01797331]
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Neptunes Wu-Tang Coil
Bjork and Aphex Twin and Elvis are all people who took ideas from originals and did it so well, that they got known for it.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2005-12-09 23:58 [#01797332]
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pixies were just a spin off of sonic youth
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-10 02:19 [#01797345]
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merzbow - the first of their kind
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-12-10 02:33 [#01797351]
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I wouldn't say Boards of Canada started a new genre / sound, they just make very good and soulful music.
My picks: Kraftwerk The techno fathers: Derrick May, Juan Atkins etc. Brian Eno The Black Dog Aphex Twin (Hangable Auto Bulb)
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-10 02:39 [#01797352]
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Kraftwerk! of course! in that case, also Jean Michel Jarre. they do it for me - the two first electronic pioneers.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-12-10 02:45 [#01797353]
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James Brown ?? (dunno really)
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-12-10 02:57 [#01797356]
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Miles Davis Mike Oldfield
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-10 06:35 [#01797460]
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steve reich ( new way of seeing classical music ) carsten nikolai/alva noto ( ultra minimal ) dj krush ( first japan folk-hip hop connection ) jeff mills ( tresor godfather ) goldie ( drum;n;bass) icarus ( drum;n;bass + jazz + everything else ) lee scratch perry ( as name suggests ) norman cook aka fatboy slim air / dimitri from paris ( easy listening ) banco de gaia ( ultra-fine trance ) pole / oval ( clicks;n;cuts ) bjork (whatever it is ) portishead / tricky ( trip hop )
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