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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 10:47 [#01789828]
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how can he put some audio trough fx, record it at the same time, put it again tru fx, add some other audio, put it again tru fx and record it...
how the fuck is that possible?
i watched everything:
1. movie 1 2. movie 2 3. picture
and i still cannot imagine how he does it.
mastah: i think i can make it in a few days
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-29 10:48 [#01789829]
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reaktor?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 10:49 [#01789831]
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the most impressive thing is that he can choose which channels go trough the fx channel
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-29 10:51 [#01789832]
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reaktor?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 10:53 [#01789833]
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its pretty easy to make a matrix like that in reaktor. Well, not easy, it takes some time, but no more time than anything else he has in that video.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 10:58 [#01789836]
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i know i know !! come on i'm not stupid but i mean isn't it impossible to play some loop in a sampler and record audio in that sampler at the same time ?
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staz
on 2005-11-29 10:59 [#01789837]
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have you ever gotten into reaktor? really not that complicated.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-11-29 11:00 [#01789840]
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From the native instruments interview:
" I think Squarepusher is the only composer doing electronic beat-based stuff who has done something truly virtuoso."
You got that right, sir!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 11:03 [#01789841]
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i actually a m trying to get into... but i'm getting kinda overwhelmed by that all.
knowing what this effect is all about would kinda excite me.
besides - i actually wanted to make something similar in ableton live if it is actually possible.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-29 11:03 [#01789842]
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wut about aphex?
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-11-29 11:19 [#01789848]
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read the interview... he's propped.
excellent stuff. I'd love pusher to be interviewed like this.
"get out of my fackin house you cunts"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 11:19 [#01789849]
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this guy is a genious for me
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 11:19 [#01789850]
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What he has is an audio channel that is being routed through both an output channel and a sampler at the same time. when he presses stop on the recording, the stop button is connected to a switch which then changes the audio in that channel from the sampler instead of the incomming channel that the sampler was recording from. Its not really that complex. You could also make it so that there are a number of these, and every time a certain button is pressed, it switches the on off from one sampler to the next. Thats how I would do it at least. I am not that efficient with reaktor, as any instrument I make usually maxes out the processor, but if you get to know it well enough, the sky is the limit.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 11:21 [#01789853]
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Brilliant video, thanks for the link. I found that really inspiring. I should try out reaktor.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 11:21 [#01789854]
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Sorry if I made it sound like I actually knew what he was doing there. Thats just me guessing, but I know stuff like that can be done pretty easily in reaktor.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 11:23 [#01789855]
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that's so impressive for me - and everything sounds so crispy clear...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 11:32 [#01789857]
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no no thank you really - just another thing i can try out.
i even thought that this may be even through midi, you know with just recording the effect on/off buttons. but i don't think that would work like that.
besides - i'm curious if he has every of the effects on each channel, or just one global fx channel.
in that movie you can clearly see that he is recording the change of two samples, and then he's kicking one out.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 12:02 [#01789877]
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That would be done through switches. I don't think he is using one sterio channel for all that, because it would be a nightmare for mixing live (he wouldn't be free to tweak one without lowering or raising others, would sound too loud or quiet at times).
Two things I got from that video:
1-he knows what he is doing, and is good at tailoring his setup for what he is comfortable with. A mark of any good musician.
2-thats a wastfull use of a good kaos pad. (sorry, but there are better things for them then just a controller).
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 12:02 [#01789878]
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*wastefull
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 12:07 [#01789881]
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not for someone that can make himself instantly better effects than the kaoss pad will ever have
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 12:29 [#01789907]
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Ouch.
As much as I love the freedom of reaktor, I would never trade the sound of my kaos pad for it :(
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 12:34 [#01789918]
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do you use it for live playing only or for studio too ?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 12:36 [#01789924]
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I haven't done any live playing in front of an audience. Never get my ass together enough to prepare a show, let alone finish and album. Its great for inspired tweaking of sorts. Not too many options there there, so you learn to work with what you have. Makes things fast and intuitive :)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-29 12:40 [#01789932]
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I should learn to divide my paragraphs better :S
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-29 13:06 [#01789957]
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yeah that's what i love at hardware stuff...
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