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offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2005-11-24 05:30 [#01786471]
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Wonder if something will happen soon...

Warp and BOC
have been in talks for a long while about putting out a box
set of old tracks from these tapes and others, with new
packaging and art, to be released sometime after the
forthcoming record. The tapes were private comps given out
to close friends a few years ago, long before the band
imagined there would be this kind of interest, and long
before the likes of Soulseek etc existed.

The tracks are out there now, nothing can be done about
that, they've been circulating for a while and fans have
them, so the decision was taken to at least consider
tidying
them up and repackaging them with decent exclusive artwork
&
more rarities. BOC never wanted these tracks presented this
way, mislabelled and as poor-quality MP3 files.

There's no 'hype', these comps were never listed on any old
discogs as they were never intended for mass release in the
first place.
Now the intention is still to get round to scheduling a
release of these tunes and other rare comps, but
unscrupulous people like 'prince murat' are obviously
stealing the thunder of the proposed releases, whilst
trying
to make a tidy profit in the process (a starting price of
$799 speaks volumes about 'prince murat's true intentions.
who is trying to profit from hype here? if any money is
going to be involved, surely the artist who wrote those
tracks should be receiving the royalties, and not this
person? there's no difference between this kind of
profiteering and someone trying to sell a bootleg CDR of
Beck's new album months prior to release.)

Anyway, now you know, we hope the intervention hasn't
caused
too much negative feeling, after all the concern that Warp
and BOC have is that basically it's going to spoil the
impact of a nice release that hopefully will be enjoyed by
the fans.

-mark, hs



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-11-24 07:17 [#01786498]
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Thatd be cool for the fans if they did


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2005-11-24 07:23 [#01786501]
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Hell yes.

I'd buy a release like that as soon as I could get my eager
little hands on it...

No idea what their early stuff sunds like


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 08:29 [#01786549]
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i hope they never release this. If it wasnt meant to be
released, it should never be released, and i'll be damned if
warp get any cash for it.

so there is boc material we have never heard.. is that
really such a disaster?

i don't even mind that they don't release that much music.
What we've gotten so far is a handful of treasures with
which we should be more than happy.

just my opinion..


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-24 08:33 [#01786551]
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from what I've heard of the Old Tunes I'd say that
those tracks are far more enjoyable than the post MHTRTC
output. I'd definately buy a boxset if it appeared

just my opinion


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2005-11-24 08:35 [#01786552]
Points: 4650 Status: Regular | Followup to vlari: #01786551



agrees


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-24 08:37 [#01786554]
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Would be great.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 08:40 [#01786557]
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strange. i never really enjoyed any of the 'old tunes' as
much as their more recent material.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-24 08:55 [#01786565]
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i hope they never release this. If it wasnt meant to be
released, it should never be released, and i'll be damned
if
warp get any cash for it.


What's wrong with releasing something originally not
intended as a commercial release? I love the Old Tunes
tracks, maybe they're so great because they were conceived
without being tailored towards an album or single release.
They're just great BOC music. And what's wrong with Warp
getting money for tidying them up, packaging, advertising,
releasing etc the material if it's in agreement with BOC?
You fanbois really can be worrying.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 09:20 [#01786582]
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don't you think it sounds a bit odd that now BoC agree to
release this, just because it happens to 'be out there'?

it sounds like 'oh well fuck it, we might as well make use
of the situation then' to me.

If this does get officially released one day, i will of
course buy it, to complete my collection, and i will
probably enjoy it too, but i'll never forget that these
tracks are only on cd now because some cunt 'stole' them and
distributed them over the internet, which hardly even
existed at the time of production.

fact: boc did not intend for this music to be commercially
released.

this whole thing is just wrong. i admired and respected boc
for having that private 'legacy' of unreleased tracks, and
letting all that go to hell because one person betrayed
them, is wrong no matter how you look at it.

Imagine if you were one of the people who had this original
tape.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 09:24 [#01786586]
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they weren't meant for mass release at the time, who
knows how they would've felt about it at this same time had
the tracks not been leaked.

they still may have thought "you know what? these tracks are
actually quite good, we'll release them anyway."

if they really didn't want to release them they still
could've said "fuck you, have fun with your shitty quality
mp3s" and left it at that.

there's just no way to know.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 09:31 [#01786590]
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"you know what? these tracks are
actually quite good, we'll release them anyway."

but they were INTENDED for family and friends at THAT time.
Releasing them now, for god knows how many fans, seems
strange to me. Does it not seem strange to you, or anyone
else for that matter?

you could say its not such a big deal. well it would be to
me, if i was a member of boc or hexagonsun, or one of the
people with an original tape.



 

offline kaen from the magical land of moo (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-24 10:11 [#01786613]
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good music is good music.


 

offline inkey from urgato (United States) on 2005-11-24 10:16 [#01786616]
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you people worry about strange things... there's benzene in
a river in china and many other more pressing matters to
worry about.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-24 11:03 [#01786638]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker | Followup to J198: #01786590



No, I think you need to CHILL THE FUCK OUT.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-24 11:06 [#01786639]
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calmer than you are, dude.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-24 11:11 [#01786640]
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theyve eaten themselves. being secretive will create a buzz,
a 'cult' underground following which self-promotes, listing
albums on their own discography which were only 'given to
friends', what exactly did they expect? cake and eat it.


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2005-11-25 16:46 [#01787713]
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they can release whatever they want.
twoism was a good idea to re-release via warp, properly
packaged and all.
if they do this, then they've done it - so what. i'm sure
there'll be decent tracks in it.
and tracks do grow out of what they were "meant for".
lookin back at what you made ages ago - it might have
acquired worth and sense in the time you've spent
existing in other places - then if you get it released -
it'll make total sense.
if they do a boxset, good on them.
if they dont do a boxset, good on them.
let them deal with their music the way they see fit - its
theirs, and they know what value any single has, or doesnt
have.
if they choose to package it well and get it released via
the warp machine, then good on them - we'll get
well-packaged release of older material, hopefully some of
their remix-adulterations of tracks,
(trapped/midastouch/etc)etc.... and why not?



 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-25 17:16 [#01787760]
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It would probably be a good idea to let people hear some
more good music. I'd be happy with a release of old tunes.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-11-25 17:47 [#01787774]
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i'd buy it. and i almost never buy anything.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-25 18:41 [#01787788]
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there's no reason for them not to release this stuff, unless
you are content with poor quality mp3 / mislabeled tracks
off Soulseek? They consider it worth commercial release, so
let them?

Just my opinion.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-25 18:44 [#01787790]
Points: 1066 Status: Regular | Followup to J198: #01786582



what's wrong about it is this 'cunt' who spread them on the
Internet. Again, if BOC want them issued properly and now
consider them worthy of commercial consumption, then let
them? It's there property, not the property of Soulseek
users content with mislabelled or low bit rate mp3...to do
with they please.


 

offline nacmat on 2005-11-25 19:04 [#01787800]
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it would be nice


 

offline hills west from new york (United States) on 2005-11-26 14:05 [#01788202]
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if they do release this boxset:
1- i will definately buy it
2- consider it their way of saying goodbye...because that
would be the artistic beauty they would see fit
3- all the posers who thought that MHTRTC was their first
album will be bumping it in their cars
4- all the newer artists that like to copy other artists
will start
making music similar thus restarting a cycle that us
oldies
will hate


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-26 14:28 [#01788205]
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50,000 leechers can't be wrong!


 


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