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why? |
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somebody has to do it |
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i was hoping for a better answer. preferably one that would answer the question. |
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, which on this occasion, would probably be quite a normal response |
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Manchester United 1-uh, Charlton 3-uh Chelsea 3 uh, Newcastle nil-uh, Liverpoll 3 uh etc |
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who is Mark E Smith, and why is it unbelieveable? |
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my point exactly |
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how can you NOT know who he is |
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easy. |
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I guess by not being very well informed about one of the most important bands/individuals of the 70s, 80s, 90s and TODAY. |
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which would be..? it seems to me every fucking band people say that about are generic rock bands. |
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Hmmm, I wouldn't say The Fall were a generic rock band. |
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have you heard of the beatles? |
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what are they then? |
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yes. |
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I think I may have found their official site, and i'm listening to some samples now.. sounds rather generic to me. |
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mind you, I don't listen much to rock, so some of the nuances may escape me, but... why are they important? what did they do? |
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so gutted i missed this (didnt get it in my area) i was looking forward to it telling all my mates to tune in The Fall are special,no 2 ways about it |
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drunken mastah> the fall have been through dozens and dozens of line up changes since 1976... the only constant person is mark e smith released about 24 odd studio albums loads of eps, did 24 peel sessions(more than any one else) i cant explain why i love em so much, their music has mega character |
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yeah, sure, it's ok that you like them, but.. what makes them important? I read some other reviews, and like all other reviews where a band (oddly enough, it's always rock) is called "important," they never give out the reasons why they are so important... it seems to me only 2% of the so-called important bands are actually important while the remaining 98% are just random bands that people like, and want to elevate to some god-like proportion. |
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what on earth does 'important' mean ?? theyre important to me because i like them |
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yeah, I know.. I'm not really asking why they're important to you, but dog said they were one of the most important bands/individuals of the 70s, 80s, 90s and TODAY... so I ask "what did they do? why are they important?" my bet is they're just another overrated rock band. |
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I wrote a load and it just came out wrong, so, well, their entry on Wikipedia is as decent a broad overview as any other, for the casually interested observer. But, the thing is, Mark E Smith is a legend, cantankerous, visionary, never let their blips of success faze him, always dismissive of people citing him as an influence. Even has own unique fashion sense. A free thinking character in a world of play it safe clones. LAZY_FALL |
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dismissive of people citing his as influence? so, when someone says they were influenced by him, he just says "no !" ? anyway, it still doesn't become apparent from that article how they are important, but I'll stop nagging now.. sorry.. I was in a bad mood. may I also add that the fact that franz ferdinand said they were influenced by them makes me never want to listen to the fall ever again. guilty by association. |
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Hmm, how can you guage a band's importance after just listening to a few samples. The important thing is, in order to appreciate their significance, you have to see their progression and evolution, in order to see how much the influence other music. And on a more shallow level, you can see how important they are by a) how many singers are doing the M.E.S. impression these days, b) by how many bands namecheck the Fall as an influence, and c) how much Mr Peel worshipped the chaps. Also, I could never understand how anyone foreign could like the Fall, although I know they do in their multitudes. They just always struck me as a band that appealed to the working class Mancunian in all Britons. |
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well, yes, that was what I was asking... I didn't say "oh, I don't like this, it isn't important!" there's lots of music where you can easily tell it's important even though you don't necessarily like it, but with rock bands, that statement should normally be taken with a pinch of salt... |
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Mark E. Smith is an interesting person to say the least. as is the history of the Fall. but I must say, I can't stand his singing. |
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may I also add that the fact that franz ferdinand said they were influenced by them makes me never want to listen to the fall ever again. guilty by association. and that's probably why Mark E Smith dissmisses most people that say they're influenced by him because 99% of the time they're just namechecking him, or they haven't a clue about the Fall, or they're jus truthless marketeers (like Franz Ferdinad) in order to, hopefully, garner some of his credibility. |
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and theyre one of the few rock bands RDJ has said he loves. |
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yeah, it just seems a bit silly to deny that other people could've been influenced by you, but I get the point.. however, it'd be better if he just said "fuck off, franz ferdinand! you suck!" |
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id never say it was singing !! more like toasting he's never denied any one was influenced by him, little bit of confusion there, he's usually seen as dead paranoid that EVERYONE has been ripping off the Fall, whats that song that starts "Notebooks out plagarists"?? Pavement supposedly ripped em totally on "slanted and enchanted" i think dunno aint heard it Aphex Twin loves the Fall ??? seriously?? |
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I didn't say he denies people being influenced by or ripping off The Fall, I said he's dissmissive of those bands that rip him off or say they're influenced by him. |
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i didnt say u did say that |
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I love This Nation's Saving Grace. Which other albums are recommended? |
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I downloaded an hour long BBC documentary about The Fall and Smith from UKNova earlier this year. that was excellent. man he can be an arsehole to the rest of the band! |
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so why did he read the football results then? |
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I don't know. |
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money probably |
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why not?, if des lynam can do it why cant he he should take the countdown slot from des aswell, would'nt that just be the most fascinating thing in televisual history? =) |
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ok, why him and not justin timberlake then? |
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are you saying you'd have preferred Timberlake? |
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Is there actually an answer to this, or are we just being canvased for opinions? |
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i don't know the answer. i would like to know the answer. i can't reemember anyone else in the history of hiding behind my sofa aged 8 trying to guess the second teams score based upon the pronunciation of the first team, ever reading them, nevermind a musician. |
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I don't think there is an answer, not really. I just can't seem to plug myself in. That was a great track, what became of those young boys? |
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Yeah in the NME interview when Druqks came out I remember Ritchie saying the Fall were one of the first bands he got into. |
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:) |
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Someone MP3 this, please! The Fall do a good cover of Lost in Music by Sister Sledge |
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lol! mark e. smith interrupting ray stubbs : "why have you got a no. 1 haircut? it's like what the people in.. the murderers in strangeways get." ray stubbs: "mark..." mark. e. smith: "you look like you escpaed from strangeways.... i'm serious." ray stubbs: "it just goes that way" mark e. smith: "who told you that, the makeup department?" |
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