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offline optimus prime on 2005-11-07 14:59 [#01772303]
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is basically like reading a dream. and i mean that in a
literal sense. i'm about 130 pages into it and will probably
finish it by christmas.

i've been wanting to read this book since i was a tween and
so far it hasn't disappointed. it's also the first book i've
picked up since finishing war & peace about a week ago.

anyway, this is a pointless post. i won't have the internet
in my new apartment for maybe two weeks so i just felt like
making a topic here while i can. :(

i miss you, xltronic.com/mb.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 15:01 [#01772305]
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you reminded me - you have a new story I haven't read. got
the thread bookmarked. will read after I finish the stuff
for tomorrow.

have a good two weeks! write something for a comeback!


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-07 15:07 [#01772313]
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thanks. i've actually already been working on something.

any americans who live in the state of maine should look for
a zine called inkblot, which has one of my older stories in
it. the date on it says october, though, so i don't know if
it's still available.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 15:45 [#01772346]
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Good luck! I'm reading Portrait of the Artist atm.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-07 15:51 [#01772348]
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while on the subject of dreams:

last night I must've dreamt a weird one, cause I woke up
while I was tearing up my duvet with my teeth. I managed to
rip a hole in it and there were feathers all over :(


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-11-07 16:18 [#01772366]
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you were probably neglected by your mother as a child


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-07 16:22 [#01772371]
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yeah, probably. mother-wolf didn't pay me much attention :'(


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-11-07 16:25 [#01772374]
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flabby ref to freuds dream interpretation theories. it
always leads you back to your mother. silly man.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 17:34 [#01772423]
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finnegans wake is fuckin bonkers!! it only ever makes sense
to me whilst extremely high or drunk or both......

here is the full text online:)
http://eldar.cz/myf/txt/joyce_-_finnegans_wake_v1.0.txt


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 17:37 [#01772425]
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"Portrait of the ArtisT'
think i read that a while ago , has it got stuff about him
in boarding school, and shagging a prostitute in it?
the only thing i properly remember about it is a rugby ball
being described as a "muddy orb"


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2005-11-07 17:41 [#01772431]
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I read a bunch of assays about FW recently, but there is no
polish translation yet. Although I think I would understand
as much from the original. I mean not a lot.


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 17:43 [#01772433]
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Don't feckin bother.
Kiss the blarney.
Drink some guiness.
English drink by the way.



 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 18:05 [#01772449]
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That's the one, not sure about the prostitute bit yet,
you're probably right. I prefer Ulysses so far, although tis
still good.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2005-11-07 18:37 [#01772456]
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I really liked Portrait of the Artist, whough reading Joyce
in another language than english is like reading whole
different book I guess.
Did you reach the part which has Dedalus sitting next to the
tracks with an older guy? Loved that story.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 19:41 [#01772461]
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I haven't yet. Sounds like the story in Dubliners with the
old pervert guy he meets.

JJ is the fookin man, although I can't look at him in the
same way since I read his dirty letters that someone posted
a while back!


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2005-11-07 20:11 [#01772463]
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It was in Dubliners??? Haha, strange cause I haven't read
it. I must have read it separately and connected it with
Portrait....

Were you surprised by the content of the letters? They
somehow fell in place for me. C'mon, the last chapter of
Ulysses...


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 20:17 [#01772464]
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Oh you have to read Dubliners! Its amazing, studied it
pretty intensely. Its essential. Maybe that story is in
Portrait also, I know the one in Dubliners was inspired by a
personal experience so maybe its in both

Haha I guess you're right, although I was uncomfortable with
some of his fetishes, ie shit :S


 

offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2005-11-07 20:50 [#01772468]
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smellow yellow furrow


 

offline grandma on 2005-11-07 21:20 [#01772472]
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I like prostitutes.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-11-07 21:34 [#01772474]
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I live in Maine, I don't get inkblot magazine though. Do
you live in Maine?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-08 06:30 [#01772651]
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i'm about 130 pages into it and will probably finish it
by christmas.


with all due respect, fuck off.

bullshit. either bullshit or you'll have read it and not
understood it.

it's not meant to be read, it's meant to be studied.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-11-08 07:01 [#01772664]
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james joyce.. the man who invented "squarepusher"

swear


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-08 08:09 [#01772707]
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HE ROCKS MY CASBAH


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offline QRDL from Poland on 2005-11-08 08:26 [#01772717]
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Noone understands FW fully, therefore I see no harm in
reading it as an amateur and catching 2 linguistic
alusions/variations a page. It's very fun when you notice
some clues and can connect them in logical way. Even if you
get just a tiny fraction of them.


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-09 14:03 [#01774125]
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it's a silly and beautiful book written in wordplays and
puns. it's fun to read so i read it for fun.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 15:42 [#01774188]
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redrum doesn't know about fun


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-11-09 18:39 [#01774303]
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I started Portrait of the artist but I don't think I was
prepapred for it because I must have read the first 20 pages
every day for 2 weeks and then gave up. But one day... maybe
when I finish Dracula which is fuggin awesome


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-13 13:41 [#01777094]
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reading finnegans wake

is actually like being a child again, completely innocent in
relation to the world around you. i'm a little over 300
pages into it at the moment, having recently finished the
most difficult chapter so far (though it was only
'difficult' in the beginning before it 'clicked'). i'd
probably finish it next week but i'm heading up to york
university until friday and can only bring a book for casual
reading (finnegans wake may not require study, but it does
require some concentration).


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-22 12:47 [#01784976]
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i have the internet again. also 480 pages into the wake.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-11-22 12:48 [#01784979]
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wish i had known about this - ill be in maine in less than a
month !!!


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-11-22 12:49 [#01784982]
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scup_bucket - where do you live?


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-26 16:29 [#01788238]
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i just finished reading finnegans wake. to me the plot is an
allegory for the relationship between charles lutwidge
dodgson and alice pleasance liddel. the book is beyond
beautiful. easily the most personal book i've ever read. i
love it, love it, love it, even more than ulysses, exiles, a
portrait of the artist as a young man and dubliners.
combined. i highly recommend it to anyone who has already
read his earlier works. i think it'll add a lot to
rereadings, which i plan to start on next year.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-26 16:31 [#01788240]
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way to go man, don't let the naysayers discourage you...
seems like the sort of thing you keep engaging for the rest
of your life... exciting stuff.


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-27 23:14 [#01788671]
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sneak attack plug: some bits of my new story were
inspired/influenced by finnegans wake.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 00:15 [#01788685]
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Ugh, the very first paragraph with weird apostrophies and
intentional mispelling of america, combined with the
unnecessarily humungous length makes this very repelling. It
feels like something an idiot teacher would make me read in
school. No shiggidy thanks.


 


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