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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2005-10-21 16:46 [#01757066]
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hello.
ive noticed lately that many of you people dont like the musical terms.
IDM for example.
ive seen many posts about how overrated and bad that term is.
since music is all about listening, and not adding stickers to what has been labeled before, i shall say that IDM, as a name, stands for its value. the same goes for variety of names, like Minimal, Trance,Hip Hop,Experimental, etc. the only one term that i must exclude form te list of "yeah-let-it-be" would be Glitch, as it was created as a remark of what - autechre track i guess ? anyway.
since we have those few shelfs for our music, i would propose just letting go the names issue - theres really no point of saying that name is overrated or is not. its just a name. plu sthe fact that IDM ,as a Intelligent Dance Music (correct me if im wrong) has many faces,good ones and bad ones, such as every bit of our life,so simply not passing by this little piece of everything could cause serious traumas and could start an aversion to music as a final effect. isnt that true ?
your opinions please,most likely with serious thoughts/arguments on that issue.
thanks.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-10-21 16:52 [#01757072]
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Pasta boogie.
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2005-10-21 18:18 [#01757190]
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nice discussion )
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-21 18:30 [#01757198]
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God damn, as broadly correct as you may be, who calls themselves "Intelligent" ? What self deceiving, presumptuos, pretentious, lofty, precious, delusions of superiority scene would label itself "intelligent"... oh, right, IDM.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-10-21 19:56 [#01757231]
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have you ever tried to dance intelligent? It looks stupid.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-21 20:01 [#01757234]
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idm woo1
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nacmat
on 2005-10-21 20:04 [#01757236]
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I dance really intelligent, anybody wants to upload a small vid of me dancing?
I am so idm
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-21 20:12 [#01757241]
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gothic soul is the newest latest btw.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-21 20:15 [#01757243]
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"i feel baaad! OW! yeah! real bad! damn! i'm so sad!! YEAH! good god!"
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-10-21 20:15 [#01757245]
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yes please..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-21 20:16 [#01757247]
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haha :)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-10-22 03:59 [#01757357]
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then SDM = Stupid Dance Music ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-22 04:00 [#01757358]
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that looks more like sadistic dance music.
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2005-10-22 04:03 [#01757360]
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is this thing happening to all new members and their threads in here ( for sake of newbies beeing ignored before they will become more "valuable" )or is it just the topic which is too boring for a music-related board ?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-22 04:04 [#01757362]
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aside from them not being very intelligent, is there something wrong with calling oneself intelligent? it's what we all think about ourselves anyway.. each and every one of us.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-22 04:07 [#01757365]
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well, the thing is this was discussed lots in the past and everytime someone new starts a topic about it, it ends this way. most people here agree idm is a stupid term and usually don't use it. although we all use it sometimes..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-22 04:08 [#01757368]
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talking intelligent in terms of people is one thing but becomes something else when it comes to music :)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-10-22 04:08 [#01757369]
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IR = Intelligent Rock [rock for intellectuals] IP = Intelligent Punk [punk for educated punks] IJ = Intelligent Jazz [for some intellectuals]
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2005-10-22 04:12 [#01757372]
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right. ppl say that IDM is stupid,end of discussion.nice.
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-10-22 04:13 [#01757374]
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Prog Trance all the way
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-22 04:16 [#01757379]
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yeah, I know... it is kind of like saying music is maths, which is wrong.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-22 04:17 [#01757381]
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well, it's been discussed greatly (unfortunatelly search function doesn't work atm) but we always eneded up saying it's a stupid name. we use idm sometimes although we don't think of what it stands for. apperantly it's a term record dealers came up with, because they didn't know under what genre to put these records.
musicians don't use it, nor fans it seems.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-22 04:18 [#01757382]
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not when it comes to autechre :D
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